BeechTalk - BT - PC-24 Grass Field Landing and Takeoff

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 20:06

Who's bringing their PC-24 to Tripple Tree?
[youtube]https://youtu.be/mqDlBFUdIgE[/youtube]

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 20:20

OK I’ll go first. That’s one of the cooler things I’ve seen in a while.

I knew I should have bought a winning lottery ticket...

Ken

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 20:23

I see a number of orders coming from the Narco countries. :bugeye:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 20:39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAb8Bhx ... e=youtu.be

I've done that!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 20:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXCwtEy ... e=youtu.be

And it takes off!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 20:41

On approach... he was slow, and on the edge... Scary when you see him floating like this short final.
Talk about bringing your A game.

There are some folks in Cascade ID that are looking carefully at those images and thinking that this may be a great addition to the fleet... and park it by the lake... They may need to paint it red to it is a little more flashy.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 21:13

Username Protected wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXCwtEy621o&feature=youtu.be

And it takes off!

Love that.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 21:57

Username Protected wrote:

On approach... he was slow, and on the edge... Scary when you see him floating like this short final.

Floating means not slow enough.

I felt he was a few knots too fast and let it float too much. Get the wheels on the ground.

There are a few small jets that can do the same. I saw a Citation V that was used for 10,000+ hours in Alaska to service radar systems. Had gravel kit with nose wheel spin up device and reinforced flap panels. Landed all the time on snow and ice, too, something that is dicey for planes without reversers.

Few are going to use the turf runway feature. Most business jet insurance policies prohibit use of anything other than hard surface paved runways. So if you want to risk your $11M jet, and the liability of flying it, all on your own, go ahead. It is like those who buy Range Rovers and never get them dirty.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 22:10

Username Protected wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAb8BhxI3kQ&feature=youtu.be

I've done that!

Man That was a Smooooooth Landing :bugeye:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 22:11

Username Protected wrote:

On approach... he was slow, and on the edge... Scary when you see him floating like this short final.
Talk about bringing your A game.

There are some folks in Cascade ID that are looking carefully at those images and thinking that this may be a great addition to the fleet... and park it by the lake... They may need to paint it red to it is a little more flashy.

Didn’t really look on the edge at all to me. Especially with the landing. That also wasn’t a short field for the 24. I am regularly landing and stopping it in 1500-1800 feet. We are doing touch and go’s on 2800ft in training. The plane will float unless your ref -5 over the threshold. It’s really the most unique Jet I’ve flown out of the 11 jets I’m typed on. Closest thing to my Supercub in the jet world and would give my King Air a run for its money on STOL performance.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 22:21

This was a fly in day at "The Vale" in Tasmania Australia. You know that little bit that sometimes gets left off the map.

The Vale is owned by Simon Hackett a very wealthy businessman from South Australia.

Simon flies a PC12 himself and probably has a 24 on order. This Jet is a Pilatus demo aircraft and gets spotted around the country a bit.

https://thevale.com.au

Simon is also a half owner of AvPlan
Which is available in the USA https://www.avplan-efb.com/product-cate ... ed-states/

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 23:23

When was the last time you had to consider the size of potholes or grass height on runways when flying a jet? The Pilatus PC-24 flight manual under limitations lists a maximum pothole depth and maximum grass height. Typical of Pilatus detail.

The PC-24 has a lighter foot print than the PC-12 (and probably most light jets) due to the dual main tires.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jan 2021, 23:59

I haven’t quoted one yet, we’ve had a few discussions.
I can see this video being a net negative on the insurance front.

Underwriter: “how do I know they aren’t going to do this”.
(Theory being a couple million dollar FOD claim avoidance.)

Idk... maybe that’s a big thing in EU (landing on a shite runway)

Tj

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Jan 2021, 01:32

Username Protected wrote:

The PC-24 has a lighter foot print than the PC-12 (and probably most light jets) due to the dual main tires.

PC-12: 60 psi mains
PC-24: 73 psi mains

So PC-24 is a bit heavier contact pressure than PC-12 but still well below many jets.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Jan 2021, 02:45

Username Protected wrote:

On approach... he was slow, and on the edge... Scary when you see him floating like this short final.
Talk about bringing your A game.

There are some folks in Cascade ID that are looking carefully at those images and thinking that this may be a great addition to the fleet... and park it by the lake... They may need to paint it red to it is a little more flashy.

No, I wouldn’t own any PC 24 that wasn’t turbo-normalized.

Neighborhood humor....sorry.