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 Post subject: Here is the coolest GA amphibian I have seen
PostPosted: 05 Oct 2010, 22:27 
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Note how the wings have no pylons for water landings. This is a very interesting design. 2 engines, six seats, and cargo area. HUGE cabin. Fuel for 6 hours and 850 lbs of people is pretty darn good. Two engines also. There is one for sale for $495k.

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Try this for size, same manufacturer:

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It would be an easy one for TAT to make a TN kit for. Huge amounts of room in the cowls. What you you say TAT guys? You would have two customers.

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I put the audio panel into N13KL


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Theres one for sale on ebay ...

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Russians don't seem to worry much about hearing loss.
I guess if you have to worry about whether or not the gear is really up or down that is a small thing - :D


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What bugs me about this aircraft is not the underpowered IO360s - it's the pricetag! $795,000!

I cannot believe the manufacturing cost of this thing exceeded $100K.

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I got a demo ride in one a few years ago at the Cedar Mills Seaplane event....unfortunately... no stick time. :sad:

About 1/4 of the wing gets submerged on a water landing.... very odd. :scratch:
Ok airplane... typical eastern block.... functional design.....but "coolest GA amphib".... not by a long shot IMO.

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What bugs me about this aircraft is not the underpowered IO360s - it's the pricetag! $795,000!

I cannot believe the manufacturing cost of this thing exceeded $100K.


How can you not believe that?

A Van's RV-10 that you build in your garage will cost $140k with a single engine, plain avionics, fixed gear, and nothing else. A new Bo is $600k. A new Baron is over $1 Million.

The engines and propellers alone are over $100k.

The next time you cannot believe something try pricing out some Beechcraft parts from RAPID. THat will really blow your mind.

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I got a demo ride in one a few years ago at the Cedar Mills Seaplane event....unfortunately... no stick time. :sad:

About 1/4 of the wing gets submerged on a water landing.... very odd. :scratch:
Ok airplane... typical eastern block.... functional design.....but "coolest GA amphib".... not by a long shot IMO.

Leldon Locke
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The coolness factor comes from the fact that it does not have pylons/sponsons on the wings, has six seats, and is a modern twin design that is economical to fly. For 16 GPH you get a nice twin. The nearest competitor is a 50-year-old Grumman that is in a completely different class and will cost you $1AMU per hour to run.
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What bugs me about this aircraft is not the underpowered IO360s - it's the pricetag! $795,000!

I cannot believe the manufacturing cost of this thing exceeded $100K.


How can you not believe that?

A Van's RV-10 that you build in your garage will cost $140k with a single engine, plain avionics, fixed gear, and nothing else. A new Bo is $600k. A new Baron is over $1 Million.

The engines and propellers alone are over $100k.

The next time you cannot believe something try pricing out some Beechcraft parts from RAPID. THat will really blow your mind.


Because they were built in the former Soviet block - labor and parts for these manufacturers are nowhere near the same as the US. Simple cost of life angle.
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And of course the $100K number is speculative exaggeration, I have no idea what they cost to build but I'd wager it is much less than building them in Wichita.

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I imagine it would be disastrous to attempt to land this plane on water with any appreciable wave action? Wouldn't it be difficult to avoid a wing dipping into the water and a subsequent cartwheel? :shrug: ???????????????

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I imagine it would be disastrous to attempt to land this plane on water with any appreciable wave action? Wouldn't it be difficult to avoid a wing dipping into the water and a subsequent cartwheel? :shrug: ???????????????

I was thinking the same thing, Max. I wonder how many of these things have cartwheeled on landing. Seems like takeoff could be a challenge as well if you get a side gust at just the wrong time.

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