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					|  Post subject: Re: Here is the coolest GA amphibian I have seen  Posted:  06 Oct 2010, 09:58  |  |  
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					|  Post subject: Re: Here is the coolest GA amphibian I have seen  Posted:  06 Oct 2010, 10:55  |  |  
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					| Username Protected wrote: http://www.beriev-usa.com/main/index.html
 I got a demo ride in one a few years ago at the Cedar Mills Seaplane event....unfortunately... no stick time.     About 1/4 of the wing gets submerged on a water landing.... very odd.      Ok airplane... typical eastern block.... functional design.....but "coolest GA amphib".... not by a long shot IMO.  Leldon Locke Sherman, Tx
 
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					|  Post subject: Re: Here is the coolest GA amphibian I have seen  Posted:  06 Oct 2010, 11:24  |  |  
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					| Username Protected wrote: What bugs me about this aircraft is not the underpowered IO360s - it's the pricetag! $795,000! 
 I cannot believe the manufacturing cost of this thing exceeded $100K.
 How can you not believe that? A Van's RV-10 that you build in your garage will cost $140k with a single engine, plain avionics, fixed gear, and nothing else.  A new Bo is $600k.  A new Baron is over $1 Million.  The engines and propellers alone are over $100k. The next time you cannot believe something try pricing out some Beechcraft parts from RAPID.  THat will really blow your mind._________________
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					|  Post subject: Re: Here is the coolest GA amphibian I have seen  Posted:  06 Oct 2010, 11:27  |  |  
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					| Username Protected wrote: http://www.beriev-usa.com/main/index.html
 I got a demo ride in one a few years ago at the Cedar Mills Seaplane event....unfortunately... no stick time.     About 1/4 of the wing gets submerged on a water landing.... very odd.      Ok airplane... typical eastern block.... functional design.....but "coolest GA amphib".... not by a long shot IMO.  Leldon Locke Sherman, Tx
 The coolness factor comes from the fact that it does not have pylons/sponsons on the wings, has six seats, and is a modern twin design that is economical to fly.  For 16 GPH you get a nice twin.  The nearest competitor is a 50-year-old Grumman that is in a completely different class and will cost you $1AMU per hour to run.
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					| Username Protected wrote: What bugs me about this aircraft is not the underpowered IO360s - it's the pricetag! $795,000! 
 I cannot believe the manufacturing cost of this thing exceeded $100K.
 How can you not believe that? A Van's RV-10 that you build in your garage will cost $140k with a single engine, plain avionics, fixed gear, and nothing else.  A new Bo is $600k.  A new Baron is over $1 Million.  The engines and propellers alone are over $100k. The next time you cannot believe something try pricing out some Beechcraft parts from RAPID.  THat will really blow your mind.
 Because they were built in the former Soviet block - labor and parts for these manufacturers are nowhere near the same as the US. Simple cost of life angle.
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					|  Post subject: Re: Here is the coolest GA amphibian I have seen  Posted:  06 Oct 2010, 12:06  |  |  
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					| Username Protected wrote: I imagine it would be disastrous to attempt to land this plane on water with any appreciable wave action?  Wouldn't it be difficult to avoid a wing dipping into the water and a subsequent cartwheel?    ???????????????I was thinking the same thing, Max.  I wonder how many of these things have cartwheeled on landing.  Seems like takeoff could be a challenge as well if you get a side gust at just the wrong time._________________
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