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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus G3 Vision Jet
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2026, 07:27 
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There is NO way the PA-46 is remotely more comfortable than the M2. I have 50 hours in the PA46 platform, hands down the most uncomfortable cockpit I've been in out of dozens of planes.


There definitely is a way. You probably haven’t been in the M600 or 700. Much bigger cockpit with a lot of mods since the piston days. At almost 2000 pounds heavier, wing loading is higher and a better ride than a PA46 piston. I wouldn’t worry about the safety. there has never been a fatal in an M600 or a 700, had an MMo of 0.55 and Vmo of 251 KTAS. The wing spar is machined from solid aluminum and looks like it belongs on a transfer truck, not a 6000 lb aircraft.

But then to say that you think the PA46 is tight compared to a Baron or Bo when the cabin is 7 inches wider than a bonanza or baron and longer seems odd. But here’s a picture taken on the same day, wearing the same clothes after demoing an M2 and then getting in my Meridian. I took this picture because I was in disbelief. I could not fit in the M2. Also, 6’2 and about 215 pounds in that pic. The camera in both pictures is on my chest, I can’t even get a good picture of the M2 cockpit because I’m 3 inches closer in the M2 that I am in the PA46. M600 is the most comfortable plane that I’ve spent time in including the Mustang and the M2. I just did a six hour flight this past week in complete Comfort. Once in place? It’s a very comfortable cockpit. Now getting in because of the continuous wing spar that you have to step over does take a technique. But after a few times, doing it, you figure out your own technique.

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You little guys can fit in a lot of airplanes. As an actual tall person (6'6") I found the M2 and M500 equally tight but workable for shorter flights with a slight edge to the M2. I have a lot more time in the M2 than the M500 and I've only ever sat in an M600 on the ground at OSH for a few minutes so I'm not including it because that wouldn't be a fair comparison.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus G3 Vision Jet
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I'm sure it will be a failure for Cirrus; they've only sold like 800 of these... ;)

Almost all to members of the Cirrus religion and very few to anyone outside that circle.

Brand loyalty and emotion are powerful airplane selling tools.

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One of the big bosses at my old job had a new(ish) Turbo Charged 182, he got a new Cirrus Jet. I never flew it or flew in it but the fellow (Lear 35/36) Pilot) who did said it was OK.

I have a little time in Cirrus 20 and 22, I’m not a fan.

I am typed in and regularly fly an Eclipse, compared to my Aerostar it’s a rocket, compared to a Lear 35/36 (much nicer avionics set up), compared to a 45 (slower .62 vs .81, with a MUCH lower fuel burn).

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The other things that seems stupid to us but is a huge thing to some people is keyless entry (Cirri have a keyfob like your car and it locks and unlocks remotely)...

I haven't locked my plane in years.

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My dad always said locks are to keep innocent people out. Because bad people are going to get in no matter what. I do lock my plane when it’s outside, mainly to be somewhat of a barrier to my headsets or something else of fair value walking away. Also to keep people from innocently coming in my plane, and possibly accidentally flipping switches or something else that I might not catch. I have never been one of those who innocently hopped into somebody else’s plane and looki-loo :oops:

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