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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 18:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: Caveat Emptor
I know two folks that have MT props and both were shocked by the overhaul costs of the MT props. One is a 2-blade and the other is a 3-blade. The 2-blade was around $7K to overhaul. The 3-blade only had 220 hours but calendar time had expired by 4 months, and MT overhauler denied warranty claim.
Gene Regardless of the hours or calander time why would they warranty a overhaul? Have you looked at the price of Hartzell props lately? Have you read on here about the wonderful customer service Hartzell provides.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 18:34 |
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Joined: 02/23/16 Posts: 479 Post Likes: +130 Location: California/Hawaii
Aircraft: Cessna R182
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The 3-blade was a new prop with only 220 hours on it and was leaking.
Gene
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 18:39 |
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Joined: 08/02/09 Posts: 1337 Post Likes: +412 Company: Nantucket Rover Repair Location: Manchester, NH (MHT)
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Username Protected wrote: The 3-blade was a new prop with only 220 hours on it and was leaking.
Gene How new? if it was beyond calander time it wasn't brand new. You could argue that they should have resealed it for good PR but if it is out if warranty it is out of warranty.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 18:53 |
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Joined: 01/23/13 Posts: 9116 Post Likes: +6876 Company: Kokotele Guitar Works Location: Albany, NY
Aircraft: C-182RG, C-172, PA28
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Username Protected wrote: I know two folks that have MT props and both were shocked by the overhaul costs of the MT props. One is a 2-blade and the other is a 3-blade. The 2-blade was around $7K to overhaul. Are they shocked because it's been a while since they looked at overhaul and the prices shot up, or because they compared to other props. For reference, New England Prop and Sensenich both quoted me $5k to overhaul the McCauley 2-blade on our 182RG. A new replacement was a hair over $10k. This is only a single data point, but I know someone that has a 3 blade MT prop who has had unending problems with blades delaminating. First they were repaired, then they were replaced. Can't remember what the final solution was, but he was adamant that he'd never buy an MT prop again.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 20:51 |
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Joined: 02/23/16 Posts: 479 Post Likes: +130 Location: California/Hawaii
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Username Protected wrote: The 3-blade was a new prop with only 220 hours on it and was leaking.
Gene How new? if it was beyond calander time it wasn't brand new. You could argue that they should have resealed it for good PR but if it is out if warranty it is out of warranty.
Just talked to my friend and they “only” charged him $4K for a reseal only. Agreed, they should have done for good PR since MT’s warranty is a “generous” 1 (one) year or 1000 hours.
Gene
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 20:53 |
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Joined: 01/22/19 Posts: 1084 Post Likes: +844 Location: KPMP
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Username Protected wrote: Caveat Emptor
I know two folks that have MT props and both were shocked by the overhaul costs of the MT props. One is a 2-blade and the other is a 3-blade. The 2-blade was around $7K to overhaul. The 3-blade only had 220 hours but calendar time had expired by 4 months, and MT overhauler denied warranty claim.
Gene Regardless of the hours or calander time why would they warranty a overhaul? Have you looked at the price of Hartzell props lately? Have you read on here about the wonderful customer service Hartzell provides.
MT's are famous for puking grease, even after a re-seal, another re-seal, and an overhaul. all to address the same leakage.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 21:29 |
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Joined: 11/11/14 Posts: 38 Post Likes: +29 Location: 7TX4 - Hillcrest / Ft. Worth TX
Aircraft: C182Q, EA-200
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Being an aerobatic pilot, I was also fairly cautious about buying an MT propeller based on what I know has gone on with them over the years in the aerobatic world. I guess long-term, I tried to consider that MT has made some significant improvements over the years and has had Some changes that have hopefully prevented a lot of the issues that have occurred in the past. John at McFarlane aviation is a fellow northern boy and a pretty honest dude.. and when you bring up the concerns, he’s able to address them technically and directly. It sure doesn’t forgive a lot of the issues that have gone on in the past.
That being said, I now have a couple of weeks of short local flying on my two blade MT propeller on the 182. It has honestly made my 182 a whole new airplane. My vibration gauge in the airplane has been my panel mounted iPad mini, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that it is rocksolid still and the amount of vibration is virtually zero. The performance is awesome. At 75% power down low, I’m flying around at 140-143 indicated. The climb rate is awesome, and the takeoff performance is really great. From a durability standpoint, if this propeller can hold its own, I will be really pleased with the way that it makes the airplane sound and perform.
I’m getting ready for a trip leaving this weekend, and the airplane will have close to 60 hours put on it in the first three weeks of January. Fort Worth, Texas to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to Saint Croix in the Virgin Islands, back to Fort Lauderdale, up to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, back to St. Croix..staying for two weeks, and then St. Croix back to Fort Worth Texas. I’ll try to post some accurate pictures and data at the conclusion of the trip in January.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 02:36 |
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Joined: 05/13/15 Posts: 166 Post Likes: +47 Location: Fontana, California
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Does anyone here have experience with the 3 blade MT prop on the Lycoming powered Cessna 182's? Specifically the T182T?
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 20:51 |
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Joined: 11/11/14 Posts: 38 Post Likes: +29 Location: 7TX4 - Hillcrest / Ft. Worth TX
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The 2 blade has really been great so far. Honestly- not as fast as I thought, but the climb performance and the reduction of vibration/smoothness is pretty impressive. I’m averaging between 150-155 knots TAS pretty easy.
I flew my airplane almost 36 hours in 6 days and really enjoyed the comfort the propeller provides.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 23:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: The 2 blade has really been great so far. Honestly- not as fast as I thought, but the climb performance and the reduction of vibration/smoothness is pretty impressive. I’m averaging between 150-155 knots TAS pretty easy.
I flew my airplane almost 36 hours in 6 days and really enjoyed the comfort the propeller provides. Erick - I have a 3 blade MT and have been happy with it as well. What else have you done to your 182? Yours is significantly faster than mine.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 14 Jan 2025, 07:31 |
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Joined: 11/11/14 Posts: 38 Post Likes: +29 Location: 7TX4 - Hillcrest / Ft. Worth TX
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Username Protected wrote: The 2 blade has really been great so far. Honestly- not as fast as I thought, but the climb performance and the reduction of vibration/smoothness is pretty impressive. I’m averaging between 150-155 knots TAS pretty easy.
I flew my airplane almost 36 hours in 6 days and really enjoyed the comfort the propeller provides. Erick - I have a 3 blade MT and have been happy with it as well. What else have you done to your 182? Yours is significantly faster than mine.
Hi Zach,
Here’s what I’ve done thus far-
-Texas Skyways O-470/TS (252hp) -PowerFlow Exhaust -High Performance Air Filter -Knots2U Flap Gap Seals -Knots2U Cowling Kit -Knots2U Nose Gear Fairing -Maple Leaf Exhaust Fairings -Obviously, the 2-blade MT
I put a SureFly on my airplane originally but took it off. It works great in my opinion on fuel injected engines but not as effective with a carb’d motor, and had issues with it- especially at higher altitudes trying to use the variable timing modes.
I also have a set of ailerion gap seals from Curry Aviation, and plan on installing them this spring sometime. If the paperwork is sound, stopping the air leak between the upper and lower sides of the ailerons will improve things another 1-2%.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 16 Jan 2025, 11:36 |
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Joined: 01/22/19 Posts: 1084 Post Likes: +844 Location: KPMP
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Here's a one year old MT propeller on a 2023 DA40, still leaking since day one. Also has the typical paint chipping. An SR20 with a 3 blade Hartzell aluminum propeller was placed in service at the same time. It looks like new, and it doesn't leak.
If you do choose an MT prop, budget extra money each year for continuing blade maintenance. And for re-seals as needed. You can't grease an MT prop without disassembly, so after a year or two of leaking, it needs to go to a prop shop.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 13:18 |
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Joined: 11/11/14 Posts: 38 Post Likes: +29 Location: 7TX4 - Hillcrest / Ft. Worth TX
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After nearly 60 hours of flying and roughly 7300nm, I brought the 182 back to Fort Worth on Thursday..
This was quite the brake in for the two blade MT, and after all this flying, I’m still very happy that I made the change to this prop. Prior to the change, I was having an issue with an occasional PIO with my GFC500. Avionics shop checked cables/tension, calibrated, went flying with me and discovered that it could be vibration related. After changing to the MT, not once in 7300nm did I get a PIO. Things are much smoother and quieter, and made this trip way more bearable to be on.
On average, my TAS in cruise was 150-155 knots.
In my observation, the prop seems to have more pull to it down low. When you get up high, 9-11K range, the speed and performance was fairly similar to the McCauley.. if anything maybe a knot or two slower. The climb performance was improved again down low, up to around 6/7K, then the VS needed to be down around 500fpm the rest of the way. Whatever marginal high altitude decrease I had was well welcomed with the quiet and smooth operation.
I’m on guard for the issues and MX issues that everyone has pointed out. I appreciate all that warning and feedback. I will say- the “stripping” issue in rain appears to be fairly fixed, as I flew the airplane through pretty heavy rain over southern FL this past week and don’t have a single mark on the prop to show for it.
This was a fun adventure and I was sure happy to share it. If I have any issues with the prop moving forward I’ll be sure to respond here.
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Post subject: Re: MT Prop on C182 Posted: 20 Apr 2025, 12:23 |
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Joined: 02/13/23 Posts: 7 Post Likes: +5
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I switched from two-bladed McCauley to a two-bladed MT prop on my 76 182P with stock engine almost exactly one year and 250 hours ago.
My performance observations are very similar to Erick's. Climb improvement and reduced vibration are the most noticeable.
So far zero maintenance issues, so fingers crossed.
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