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Post subject: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 08 May 2020, 20:34 |
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Would have thought maybe Chuck or one of the other MMOPA frequenters would have posted this. So i will!! N524LT is shown as an M600 with a PT6A-52 engine. M700 320 kts?? Fun to think about and wonder what could be. https://youtu.be/y6DqkOA_sWQ
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 11:31 |
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I am also a big fan of the Pa-46tp. My only complaints were the range.....which the 600 addressed.....and the cabin altitude. A 10k plus cabin altitude at 3 plus hours can take its toll.
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 11:53 |
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Quote: AVIATION HISTORY WILL BE MADE
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FOREVER That sure is over the top. Wonder what the big deal is??
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 12:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: Quote: AVIATION HISTORY WILL BE MADE
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FOREVER That sure is over the top. Wonder what the big deal is??
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 12:53 |
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Quote: THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
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FOREVER I was wondering what that "Director of Hyperbolic Marketing" job ad on Piper's website was all about. Now we know.
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 12:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Quote: THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
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FOREVER I was wondering what that "Director of Hyperbolic Marketing" job ad on Piper's website was all about. Now we know.Honestly. 
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 12:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Quote: THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
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FOREVER I was wondering what that "Director of Hyperbolic Marketing" job ad on Piper's website was all about. Now we know.
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 13:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: Quote: AVIATION HISTORY WILL BE MADE
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FOREVER That sure is over the top. Wonder what the big deal is?? Attachment: 5A1BD63E-439F-45A3-BC94-F2C017905BE6.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 14:03 |
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Username Protected wrote: AVIATION HISTORY WILL BE MADE
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FOREVER That implies non-pilots, so it must be a self-flying UAV, that costs the price of a Hyundai and runs on 87 Octane mogas.
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 14:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: AVIATION HISTORY WILL BE MADE
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FOREVER That implies non-pilots, so it must be a self-flying UAV, that costs the price of a Hyundai and runs on 87 Octane mogas. Fly, Raptor 700, Fly!
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Post subject: Re: Maybe New Piper Offering - M700?? Posted: 09 May 2020, 17:16 |
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*laughing*. There is a thread on MMOPA about this too. Us M600 drivers are very interested in this for obvious reasons. The aircraft in question is equipped with a PT6A-52 (not the 42A that both the current M600 and Meridian/M500 use). Piper had two aircraft registered with this engine - one had an engine fire at some point. Long suspected that something like this was in the works. The -52 is a popular engine upgrade (e.g., Blackhawk) for the B200 also - maintains full torque to a higher altitude than the 42A. Results in less time to climb, better speed and range in that aircraft according to them (I have no personal knowledge of that however). I don't know enough about this situation to know if Piper is finally abandoning the "always open" inertial separator that they currently implement and yes that would increase the speed. Interestingly, the flight aware tracks that I reviewed (not a complete review but it included the 4:30 am flight that is referenced on the video) showed that (1) none of the flights were about FL280 and (2) all were filed at 260 knots. So nothing about the FA tracks reveals a major performance leap but they could have been cagey about what they filed or maybe I just didn't look at the right flights. In any case, as noted, the marketing manager should just come right right out and said "This airplane will cure COVID, reverse aging, make all men strong and all women beautiful, and impose immediate world peace." I mean, why be cagey??  I guess we will see if they are going to replace the M600 or sell an M700 or some other model with this engine, whether it could be a retrofit, or whatever. I agree that if they are going to increase the service ceiling they will have to adjust the pressure controller but I don't find a 10000' cabin altitude to be a particular issue as I flew at that altitude all the time in my Cirrus. Still, a lower cabin altitude would be nice and it would be essential IMO if they are going to have this thing fly higher. I don't imagine we will have to wait too long for the answers however - once you put this kind of video out, you can halt new M600 sales in their tracks without disclosure to prospective buyers. Even with NDAs, you can't keep a secret like that for too long. Cheers
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