BeechTalk - BT - Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Diesel

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 11:53

I prefer Latin phrases myself...

[youtube]https://youtu.be/AK_emsjIs5g[/youtube]

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 11:58

Username Protected wrote:

He can not meet his objectives as stated given the increase in weight.

I’m probably gonna repost this often.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 12:11

Username Protected wrote:

For some reason i keep reading this thread. About the most useless in BT history.
I must be a glutton for something.
The project itself is interesting.

way more info on the homebuilt site for anyone interested
https://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/foru ... tor.31319/

https://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/foru ... tor.32453/

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 12:16

Username Protected wrote:

For some reason i keep reading this thread. About the most useless in BT history.
I must be a glutton for something.
The project itself is interesting.

I think it is a brilliant, tour de force in human psychology and mob behavior. Especially poignant given you have a "mob" of folks that are among the most intelligent and financially successful in society. (Folks smart/affluent enough to own and fly private aircraft)

And still the breakdown is similar (fractal) to the mob at large. 90% +++ low critics who get butt hurt when their assertions are disproven, then turn to ad homiem attacks.

And a few folks who while still disbelieving, ask thoughtful questions.

I could be wrong, but I think this guy is going to do something that will change the industry in a meaningful way. Is going to reset the goal posts for what is known and shown to be possible. If I am wrong, so be it. Maybe the thing craters during the first flight, or in the first 20 hours, etc. I don't think so.

But... but. but.

If I am right and this guy does change our GA aviation world in a meaningful way, looking back at this whole experience will be instructive..

for maybe 3-5% of the community here.

Pareto distributions are just part of nature.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 12:20

some sube history
http://jdfinley.com/what-happened-to-th ... ft-engine/

Quote:

Why are there no companies offering Subaru Aircraft Engines and conversion kits? Because no market exists. Without a market they cannot sell enough products to make money. Without money they cannot stay in business. Yes, this makes me sad but it is the free enterprise system that I support and defend even though it is largely lost at this point.

So, we are left with dozens of one off installations. That is, every installation is a hand built package that is different than every other. One cannot compare cost, output, reliability nor any other factors because they are all different. The new guys comes along and wants instructions, instead they receive a thousand different ideas. They are confused, frustrated, and annoyed. They return to the Van’s catalog engine page and select the firewall forward package that is fully documented and proven. They write a check, turn a couple of bolts, and go flying.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 14:03

Username Protected wrote:

still looking for a test pilot

I nominate Chris. He's obviously the smartest guy here. I'd do it, but all this polar talk is just Greek to me....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 15:01

Username Protected wrote:

I nominate Chris. He's obviously the smartest guy here. I'd do it, but all this polar talk is just Greek to me....

Yeah, if he had a pilot's license. . . .

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 15:05

Username Protected wrote:

I could be wrong, but I think this guy is going to do something that will change the industry in a meaningful way. Is going to reset the goal posts for what is known and shown to be possible. If I am wrong, so be it. Maybe the thing craters during the first flight, or in the first 20 hours, etc. I don't think so.

I could be wrong too, but I think it will be yet another failed money pit piled on the dust bin of aviation history. His goals are unattainable, and will be no better than a homebuilder putting a Diesel engine into a velocity... actually that's what he should have done, his will be much worse.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 15:22

Username Protected wrote:

I could be wrong, but I think this guy is going to do something that will change the industry in a meaningful way. Is going to reset the goal posts for what is known and shown to be possible. If I am wrong, so be it. Maybe the thing craters during the first flight, or in the first 20 hours, etc. I don't think so.

I could be wrong too, but I think it will be yet another failed money pit piled on the dust bin of aviation history. His goals are unattainable, and will be no better than a homebuilder putting a Diesel engine into a velocity... actually that's what he should have done, his will be much worse.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 15:40

Username Protected wrote:

I don't owe you a damn thing Fraley, but it's tough to pass up the offered schadenfreude.

Why don't you do a bit of digging into what it takes to get a VittemII visa issued in Brazil (and a "few" other places) and more importantly one issued for 10 years. They advertise em as available but surprisingly don't pass the "por 10 annos" type out like candy. But am sure you know all about that.

i.ibb.co/FzcxvR6/IMAG0093.jpg

If you have any other questions feel free to have your tax guy talk to my team in regards to your global import/export business/capital asset management/tax/fx strategy etc.

Picturing Fraley madly googling "FX strategy" and a "few other things" gives me quite a bit of pleasure. And I appreciate it. Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLT3WXKTL8k

Think global man.

The impostor Chris Close acting as.... you guessed it.. "Chris Close"

Not googling. Why don’t you just explain it like you would if we were two human beings having a conversation?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 15:57

Username Protected wrote:

Not googling. Why don’t you just explain it like you would if we were two human beings having a conversation?

Because up until this point you have not offered any cogent analysis, cohesive arguments, or anything within haling distance of a defensible argument (when illuminated with even a cursory sun beam of inspection.) Let alone any kind of exculpatory self awareness when something that was formerly beyond your grasp is made crystal clear to you. Roughly speaking.

Always happy to change course buddy.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 16:00

Username Protected wrote:

Not googling. Why don’t you just explain it like you would if we were two human beings having a conversation?

Because up until this point you have not offered any cogent analysis, cohesive arguments, or anything within haling distance of a defensible argument (when illuminated with even a cursory sun beam of inspection.) Let alone any kind of exculpatory self awareness when something that was formerly beyond your grasp is made crystal clear to you. Roughly speaking.

Always happy to change course buddy.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 16:16

Username Protected wrote:

Are you this way in person?

Well we seem to have crossed the hurdle on whether or not I am who I purport to be. That's something I suppose.

Yes.

Charlie has it correct. Takes some of us longer to get there than others. (Those few who actually arrive) Am a dogged laggard myself, just too dumb to quit :-) Just doing the best of which I am capable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCfNAl6DWE

Cheers buddy.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 16:27

3/4" of free play in the ailerons with a locked control stick. Probably another drag reducing feature.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2019, 16:36

So, Chris, what’s the story with your pilot’s license?