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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2019, 06:31 
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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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210 knots in a 600 seems pretty unrealistic, at 75% power. I’ve never flown one, but I seem to recall 195-200 being a more achievable speed...and that only between 6k-8k.

There were some other statements in the video that were either errors, or inaccuracies. I wonder what it sold for? $275k for a 600 seems high, but I hope they got close to that. :clap:

Oh yeah, I’ve been AOG for a week now due to a hydraulic leak that pumped all our fluid out over Lake Michigan while enroute to PWK. Waiting for AAC to get parts to the mechanic, so he can make a new hard line. Thanks to Ken Bacon and his network over at the Aerostar Owner’s Association for helping me find a mechanic who could work on it. I only had two hours before our flight from ORD departed for Reykjavík. Not looking forward to a six hour drive home tomorrow.

That’s the first time in six years I won’t be able to dispatch, for any reason. Not bad for a 40 year old airplane.


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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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My first 600A was light and sans boots trued between 204-208+ depending on load at 7500-8500 ft, flight planned 30 g/h but usually took 28-29 g/h. My current 600A is about 5 kts slower due to boots (FIKI) including hot plate/props, but will do it all day long. BTW, best power ff is around 32-33 at those altitudes, so 28-29 is near best economy according to Lycoming engine manual ff chart.

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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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I picked up a friends 600A from the engine shop. Running 24 squared to break in the engine I was indicating 208. I couldn’t believe it, so I did the 4 cardinal GS test, sure enough my average ground speed was 216.


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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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Ima having severe Aerostar withdrawal... over two months now in paint shop...less than a month to go :cross:

They said quite a bit of bondo? From previous job taken out so I will be 20 pounds lighter, much more sleek and able to hit Mach .95 :liar:
On a mere .95 GPM :D

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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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I tripped across video of Aerostar history, thought it was interesting:

https://youtu.be/RQ0YNQd0R-8?t=57s


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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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I tripped across video of Aerostar history, thought it was interesting:

https://youtu.be/RQ0YNQd0R-8?t=57s


Nice catch! Dave contacted me earlier this year and asked for some photos of my 680V for his book, which I was happy to send him. In the video is also Don Smith who I trained with when I had my Aerostar. He knows a lot about Aerostars and helped Tom Cruise get checked out in them for the movie American Made.

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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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An Aerostar 600 with 350 HP engines? :bugeye:
That's what he said. :coffee:

I think I just learned something. :scratch:

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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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I had to replay that part, to ensure I heard it correctly.


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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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210 knots in a 600 seems pretty unrealistic, at 75% power. I’ve never flown one, ...


A good clean (sans boots) 600A will perform to book and yield 210K TAS @ 75%, best power.
Ask me how I know :D

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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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Brian,

Having owned a 601P without boots but with intercoolers (which add drag), it is absolutely NOT unrealistic to me. On short trips where I stayed below 10,000', my 601P would bump 200 knots at 70 percent easily.

My 601P made book speeds day in and day out with real numbers that were significantly faster than a Duke or 58P.

The darn things are fast. :cheers:

Like you though, I didn't watch much of the video after the 350 HP announcement.

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Book on a 601P between 5M and 10M @ 75% and standard is 209 tas to 219 tas. On a 600 book is 212 tas to 208 tas @ 10M. A standard 601P does not have boots or inter coolers and neither does a 600. No VG’s also.


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Book on a 601P between 5M and 10M @ 75% and standard is 209 tas to 219 tas. On a 600 book is 212 tas to 208 tas @ 10M.


Agree Tom, I kept one of my POH manuals too. Sometimes it is just nice to read it and recall those numbers fondly. :thumbup:

Like I said: the darn things are fast. :peace:

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Book on a 601P between 5M and 10M @ 75% and standard is 209 tas to 219 tas. On a 600 book is 212 tas to 208 tas @ 10M.


Agree Tom, I kept one of my POH manuals too. Sometimes it is just nice to read it and recall those numbers fondly. :thumbup:

Like I said: the darn things are fast. :peace:

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