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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt  Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 17:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: You definitely don't want to be #2 in sequence.. it's not like it's kennedy with dirt runways. I used to do this kind of work and i can't recall ever seeing another airplane with its engines running at the same time as us.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 17:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: "Rough field test campaign"? This was not rough. It was a smooth, wide, long runway.
Why so long to deploy lift dump?
I wonder what Williams thinks of this and how that will be reflected in the engine program costs. You definitely don't want to be #2 in sequence...
Mike C. So their first test flight should be from a gravel sand bar in Alaska. Got it.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 17:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: So their first test flight should be from a gravel sand bar in Alaska. Got it. No, but it should be labeled "rough field", either. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 18:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: So their first test flight should be from a gravel sand bar in Alaska. Got it. No, but it should be labeled "rough field", either. Mike C.
Watch the strut travel and the footage from outside of the plane. The nose dips significantly at one point. It's certainly rough compared to your average paved runway that you would see a jet of this class operating on. What would be your definition of rough when talking about a business jet?? 
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 18:52 |
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My home drone is a strip just like this. Problems loom when the dirt turns to mud....
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 19:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: My home drone is a strip just like this. Problems loom when the dirt turns to mud.... Don't worry, Erwin. Just have a sip of vodka: [youtube]http://youtu.be/XUtYlR28Yb4[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 19:09 |
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I wonder if that ground was still solid just below the surface? In non freezing climates with a week of rainy weather a dirt runway can have deeper soft spots where the wheels can sink in deep enough to cause LOC. STOL types will fair better. Bottom line is when its wet it becomes a gamble. PC24 will do well on dirt as shown (most anything can use a strip like that on occasion) but to me it does not look like a plane to use on muddy runways.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 19:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: What would be your definition of rough when talking about a business jet?? Something more than this, that's for sure. I got no problem with it being early in the test program, but if Pilatus advertises the plane for "unimproved" runways, then this runway isn't it. It was definitely "improved". Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus PC-24 on dirt Posted: 22 Jun 2018, 20:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: Where are the winglets? On other aircraft whose designers used inadequate wingspans. Mike C.
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