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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 11:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: For those of you who fly with Sirius XM weather Aviator Pro package..I just recently discovered the turbulence forecast product. Select your altitude and see what you face. If seems very accurate. I have this on the G1000 and it is a great feature. I often here the airlines "guessing" where to go while I usually can select the better altitudes.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 20:56 |
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Joined: 07/21/08 Posts: 5755 Post Likes: +7146 Location: Decatur, TX (XA99)
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Username Protected wrote: Mark knows how to set the hook... Congratulations Jesse! Mark told me that today was the day.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 20:58 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12089 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Mark knows how to set the hook... Another one bites the dust. Got to remind SIMCOM to give me “my taste”! You are a worthy member of the club. Be sure to add “Jet Elite” to your tag line!
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 24 Feb 2018, 22:57 |
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Joined: 12/16/09 Posts: 535 Post Likes: +209 Location: NC
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Username Protected wrote: Mark knows how to set the hook... Nice!! Can't wait to hear more about it.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 25 Feb 2018, 10:11 |
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Joined: 11/25/16 Posts: 1924 Post Likes: +1575 Location: KSBD
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Username Protected wrote: You are a worthy member of the club. Be sure to add “Jet Elite” to your tag line! Did you tell him he's now required to use turbine power to get from the FBO to the flightline? https://i.imgur.com/BekKjOG.gifv
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 25 Feb 2018, 11:43 |
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Joined: 01/31/10 Posts: 13495 Post Likes: +7590 Company: 320 Fam
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Username Protected wrote: Nice!! Can't wait to hear more about it. It was an interesting experience at Simcom. The instructor was top shelf though. I also enjoyed my examiner. I did the accelerated “upgrade” which is everything covered in the two-week initial, just done in one week. It makes for long days and extremely busy sim sessions. There wasn’t even 10 minutes to hand-fly the sim to get used to its idiosyncrasies. First sim action was an engine fire before V1, then off we went into clag to lose one and prep an approach while “learning” CRM on the fly. Learning CRM was the challenge. I’ve always flown single pilot before flying with Mark, and was assigned an instructor as my SIC. Our first Sim session was a throw away. I realized they assumed I had airline/CRM training since I had an ATP. I studied hard that night and came back as a captain of the crew. It worked great. I also learned what happens when you have the wrong guy in the right seat...its ugly. My oral went perfectly and we nailed the ride. My SIC and I operated like one and it was a thing of beauty. We handled mutliple approaches, MAs, failures, emergencies, etc and it ran like a well-oiled machine. This type really made me appreciate SOP CRM. I can see how the airlines do what they do. I also enjoyed learning the SOPs of part 25 rules, 2nd segment protection, etc. Many of the Citation systems are beautifully simple. My instructor has the systems down inside and out so we went way beyond the training materials, which I enjoyed. Owning and flying the 421C was a great prep for the CII. Many of Cessna’s designs use the same layout and it was obviously built as a step up from the Golden Eagle. Now its time to get some hours. I need 25 SOE before I can Captain with an SIC.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 25 Feb 2018, 13:33 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12089 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Nice!! Can't wait to hear more about it. I also enjoyed my examiner.
That makes one of us
That’s not fair. I liked him too
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 08:15 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12089 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: Thanks for the ride along, Mark. Always enjoyable, although I got a little carsick planesick on the taxi out for departure!  Yeah if you don’t look outside it is a lot easier.  Life of a single pilot. 
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 11:42 |
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So why no igniter noise on this one? (think that's what you had said that tone was on other vids)
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 12:00 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 14343 Post Likes: +12089 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
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Username Protected wrote: So why no igniter noise on this one? (think that's what you had said that tone was on other vids) It’s there. Just faint. No Idea why
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 17:18 |
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Congratulations Jesse!
I have mixed feelings about getting extra information in type training courses. Often times, the instructor doesn't have enough to talk about so they venture into "let me tell you smart I am territory". This sounds something like "the wing spar has 14 webs that utilize 24 #12 1014 alloy rivets....." - this is where I start fading off and thinking "why do I give a f@rt?"
I say mixed feeling because every once in a while, the instructors tell you something you can actually use. This sounds much the same but you have to listen closer. It could be " "the wing spar has 14 webs that utilize 24 #12 1014 alloy rivets, you normally couldn't care less about this but in this case these rivets can corrode in saltwater environments and if you watch for a black ring around the rivet head on your preflight, you might save your bacon, especially on the spars near the flap tracks".
I worked with 3 or 4 different instructors at Simcom when I did my 550 type rating. NONE of them had any time in the 550! This is lame. If you are not going to give me an experienced 550 pilot, why not just hire a hot girl to walk me through a bunch of powerpoint slides? At least, I wouldn't need to drink as much coffee to stay awake.
_________________ John Lockhart Phoenix, AZ Ridgway, CO
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