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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II
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Pull on to taxiway.

Squak 7600

Watch for flashing green light or follow-me truck.

( Light signals from runway to FBO might be a challenge at DAL. )


Exactly that. Vacate, 7600, hold, wait for the flash and follow me. That works anywhere (and happened to me a few months ago, pretty strange feeling, it's all quiet despite the noise of the airplane).

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Pull on to taxiway.

Squak 7600

Watch for flashing green light or follow-me truck.

( Light signals from runway to FBO might be a challenge at DAL. )


Exactly that. Vacate, 7600, hold, wait for the flash and follow me. That works anywhere (and happened to me a few months ago, pretty strange feeling, it's all quiet despite the noise of the airplane).



7600 is not visible to a tower. At least KDAL so that is useless.


Remember in my case I would have to taxi to reposition to see tower. (Light gun).

Strange feeling indeed.
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To whom? Where do you find the number? Google? So you are at one of the busiest airports in the world. Single pilot mind you...Stop...Google....love tower. Seems reasonable. Not my first thought though.


In Australia it's in ERSA so piece of cake. At DFW I bet if you just stopped and did not respond a car would be to you in a minute. I myself wouldn't be moving to the side I'd just be holding. i guess worst case call the FBO and they'd sort for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II
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Mark. Thank you for this thread.

As obvious as the cellphone is I did not think about it.

As obvious as changing headsets is I did not think about it.

Because of this thread I'll have more options. So much so that I'm confident there will be a solution.

The chance of both my handheld radio and my cell battery being dead are slim.

If they are I'll now think to turn on the external aircraft speaker, (like switching headsets but faster), and I use IFlyGPS. It lists tower and other airport phone numbers for quick access right on my yoke if the cell is available.

Again, thank you. BT, I've been taught...again!

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I had that happen too but on departure. Put on copilots headset and had to use their push to talk.
In my case, it was just on pilots side, but I do have a hand held backup,

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Yeah Handheld in flight bag Don't leave without it.

Good share though Mark, thanks.

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I had a push to talk on pilot side fail in the pushed position recently.

Was switching to tower for departure when it happened. Handheld didn't have reception nor could I hear it with engines running (at least not well). Was able to get tower to hear me well enough that I was taxing back and they sent someone for me to follow.

Interesting failure in that selecting other come didn't solve the problem. After shutdown I realized I could have split the coms on the garmin remote audio panel in the gtn750, tuned the pilot to an unused frequency and then used the right seat PTT and headset. I think that would work but need to test. Would have been an annoying failure had it occurred in flight.


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Mark H - Don't you have a handheld mic and speaker? Any suspected Comm problem I go to the mic and speaker. Usually they are wired to bypass the audio panel and many usual points of failure with headsets.

BTW, when I saw the wireless Lightspeed headsets I was tempted but have so many issues with wireless gadgets that I didn't want to fool with my headset.

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I have one on the overhead panel, and while I still remembered it, it was good to crosscheck before moving...

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Mark H - Don't you have a handheld mic and speaker? Any suspected Comm problem I go to the mic and speaker. Usually they are wired to bypass the audio panel and many usual points of failure with headsets.

BTW, when I saw the wireless Lightspeed headsets I was tempted but have so many issues with wireless gadgets that I didn't want to fool with my headset.



Funny you mention that Allen. Honestly it has been so long since I used a hand mic I never thought about it. Your comment is the first time it crossed my mind. Funny how the mind works (or doesn't).

I love the wireless headset. So nice not to have cords. Especially in the seaplane where things generally fall into the water. I

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I love the wireless headset. So nice not to have cords. Especially in the seaplane where things generally fall into the water. I


I can see the benefits of the wireless headset in the seaplane. Less so to the PIC in a CItation cockpit.

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7600 is not visible to a tower. At least KDAL so that is useless.

Sidebar (aka thread drift): I was at Phoenix (KPHX) two months ago and began my taxi roll before I had entered my new squawk. I knew I would be waiting a while for takeoff, so I was anxious to get in line on the taxiway and then dial in my clearance while waiting. As I began my taxi, ground control asked me to dial in my new squawk. Point being they could see my squawk. My question is how does one determine at which airports the tower can see your squawk? Obviously Phoenix is a Class B airport, but I hadn't encountered ground control paying attention to the squawk before including KLAX and KLAS.

Back to the thread, I would at least dial in 7600 if all else failed.

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7600 is not visible to a tower. At least KDAL so that is useless.

Sidebar (aka thread drift): I was at Phoenix (KPHX) two months ago and began my taxi roll before I had entered my new squawk. I knew I would be waiting a while for takeoff, so I was anxious to get in line on the taxiway and then dial in my clearance while waiting. As I began my taxi, ground control asked me to dial in my new squawk. Point being they could see my squawk. My question is how does one determine at which airports the tower can see your squawk? Obviously Phoenix is a Class B airport, but I hadn't encountered ground control paying attention to the squawk before including KLAX and KLAS.

Back to the thread, I would at least dial in 7600 if all else failed.


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Got my attention. New gauge. Faulty output.


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