BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jun 2016, 04:42

Seems a bit out of the way to stop for fuel in Nassau flying from San Jose CR to Toronto? I realize the winds factor in heavily. There could well be Customs or expense reasons for the stop out of the USA?

Usually if no one gets off the plane no need for intermediate Customs involvement. With a zero-dark 30 fuel stop it's best to notify hours ahead to have personnel in place. Common sense I realize.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 Jun 2016, 23:36

Ah, I misunderstood what you were saying - why stop at Nassau when it could have been done in the US. Who knows? It's certainly not out of the way though -if you look at the routing it's right in line and probably most efficient, assuming everything works right.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Jun 2016, 22:14

Rode a WOW A321 from BWI-KEF-LGW in Jan, followed by a UIA 739ER to Kiev. Long day.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Jun 2016, 23:13

I'd rather the 737 than the 757 that traditionally did some of these long narrow routes.

Realistically though, there's no difference between economy class in anything CRJ900 size or larger. It all has the same shitty room, and all sucks. Poor bathroom planning was the airlines fault, not the airframes.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Jun 2016, 15:03

Username Protected wrote:

I'd rather the 737 than the 757 that traditionally did some of these long narrow routes.

Realistically though, there's no difference between economy class in anything CRJ900 size or larger. It all has the same shitty room, and all sucks. Poor bathroom planning was the airlines fault, not the airframes.

Just wondering - why the 73 than the 75? Is it just the layouts that you've seen or is it the airframe?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Jun 2016, 15:06

Username Protected wrote:

I'd rather the 737 than the 757 that traditionally did some of these long narrow routes.

Realistically though, there's no difference between economy class in anything CRJ900 size or larger. It all has the same shitty room, and all sucks. Poor bathroom planning was the airlines fault, not the airframes.

Just wondering - why the 73 than the 75? Is it just the layouts that you've seen or is it the airframe?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Jun 2016, 15:09

Username Protected wrote:

Primarily because 757 has poorer noise, harmonics, vibration. It's just a loud plane. The fleet is also fairly old.

It also seems the newer long range 737's have a cabin altitude, but I'm not sure on this second part.

Interesting. Some fleets are getting long in the tooth. Most of the Delta 757's are mid and early 90's from what I recall.

What do you mean by a cabin altitude? In the 757 the cabin was almost always at 6k' or less.

I admit I haven't ridden in the back of either very much, but in the cockpit the 737 is WAY louder than the 757.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Jun 2016, 15:37

Username Protected wrote:

Oh it's coming alright. Long flights in single aisle airplanes are the pits. I did a Pisa trip last year in a 757. It was over 9 hours coming back. We had to divert on the way in because a big thunderstorm was over the field and we didn't have the gas to hold very long. The 737 is efficient, but so painful for the long hauls. I don't ever plan on bidding to that thing.

Ben,
9 hours in a 737... that's LONG. I was lucky when I flew them... non of them would go much more than 5 hours and the newest one was the 300/500 series. Loved that plane.. dirt easy to fly... and fun with a lot of small town layovers instead of the big city hassle. However, made for a long month compared to the bigger stuff.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Jun 2016, 17:11

Username Protected wrote:

Ben,
9 hours in a 737... that's LONG. I was lucky when I flew them... non of them would go much more than 5 hours and the newest one was the 300/500 series. Loved that plane.. dirt easy to fly... and fun with a lot of small town layovers instead of the big city hassle. However, made for a long month compared to the bigger stuff.

That was in a 757, not a 737. I've not flown them, but I know they are doing transcons and Boeing keeps stretching them... maybe one day it'll be 9 hours in a 737. I know one thing - I won't be up front!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Jun 2016, 19:04

Username Protected wrote:

single isle and only two restrooms are insufficient

I just finished reading a book about the first jet airliner, the de Havilland Comet.
That had 2 restrooms, but in 1950s British sensibilities, one for gentlemen and one for ladies.
There were complaints from predominantly male pax about one restroom...

Long flight 737