Cirrus says they will deliver 220 SF50s by 12/31/2017, 3+ years from now.

I say they don't deliver 110 SF50s by that date, half their promise.

No ifs, ands, buts, "well I didn't mean...", etc. Either customers have 110 SF50s or they don't by that date.

Money is not an appropriate wager. Let's wager something far more valuable. 1 year of forum participation. The loser doesn't post on BT for the entire year of 2018.

Mike C.

For the military that higher speed for operational necessity is preapproved by the administrator. You don't just say on the radio "operational necessity" and you are legal. ATC will approve it because it's not ATC's call. Just like if you wanted to shoot an approach when the weather is below mins. ATC will clear you for it.

Yes, I would since it violates an aircraft limitation (Vmo 250 KIAS).


Interesting. Reference or just emphatic assertion?

I have yet to commit aviation without violating a FAR (and I suspect everyone is in this category), and you may be right that complying with their instruction was a violation, but I did it.

Mike C.

Yes, I would since it violates an aircraft limitation (Vmo 250 KIAS).

91.117
(d) If the minimum safe airspeed for any particular operation is greater than the maximum speed prescribed in this section, the aircraft may be operated at that minimum speed.

Zero flap speed on a heavy can be 265+
No waiver needed.

Reference ATC, is not the Administrator.

Volume 58, No. 157; Tuesday, August 17, 1993; Page 43553 14 CFR Part 91

[Docket No. 24456; Amendment No. 91-233]
The Airspace Reclassification Rule inadvertently assigned the authority to air traffic controllers to allow aircraft operators to deviate from the maximum airspeed restriction below 10,000 feet. The authority to approve deviation from the speed limits contained in the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) rests with the Administrator, and the FAA did not intend to amend the approving authority. This action reestablishes the Administrator as the proper authority to permit waivers of aircraft speed. This action also corrects the inadvertent inclusion of Class B airspace in the maximum airspeed restriction effected by the Airspace Reclassification Final Rule.


It remover the inadvertent authorization of controllers to allow deviations of speed and returns it to the administrator. Hence showing the controller is not the administrator.

I agree we all break regs now and then. They can get tricky in some places. This is one. It gets a lot of people. Atlanta will tell you to maintain 250 then drop you below the class B. And it's almost impossible to know where you are without airspace overlay on a moving map. They are supposed to tell you when you are going to be below class B ( it's spelled out in the 7110) but they don't always. Then they seem "surprised" you are going so fast. I've heard them give the dreaded phone number to a few pilots heading into PDK. I swear they do it for sport sometimes.

Thanks that is what I was trying to remember.

If you won that bet, I'd have to take up reading books, again....

Those people are just greedy. If they weren't greedy they'd sell their homes at a price everyone could afford.

A 200 mile round trip flight costs $10K in a Meridian?

Wow.

Mike C.

It has been a while and my memory on the subject is a little fuzzy, but I believe that exceptions must be approved by the Administrator and the PIC has no authority to do so, emergencies excepted. If pilots are operating a heavy in excess of 250 KIAS below 10,000 routinely there is very likely an exception somewhere in the op specs that has been approved by the Administrator.





Thanks that is what I was trying to remember.

A 200 mile round trip flight costs $10K in a Meridian?

Wow.

Mike C.

Maybe Crandall can write a book for you to read, something like "Zen and the art of single engine jet maintenance".

I'd look for it in the fiction section.

Mike C.

Good thing his mother didn't live in the same town, then he'd be spending ~$400K to go no where.

Mike C.

Maybe Crandall can write a book for you to read, something like "Zen and the art of single engine jet maintenance".