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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust!  Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 16:46 |
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Sorry Adam S. I meant Adam Frisch.
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 16:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: Adam Frisch wrote,"...
I haven't even factored in the cracked cylinders, or the ubiquitous turbo overhauls, mag overhauls, or the $100/pop spark plugs yet that will happen on top of this on the way to TBO."
Adam, it sounds like you have a bad annual hangover?
LB I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a turbo charged engine, that hasn't had work done on either turbos, wastegates or cylinders before TBO. Rarer than hen's teeth...  As someone once said "if your turbo goes beyond 1000hrs, you're riding for free".
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 17:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: Greg,
First, I LOVE the Barons. I have owned 6 of them.
Next, the Brochure from Beechcraft is probably for a non-booted, no A/C, and no radar plane. Deduct about 100-200 lbs for those items.
The Baron climbs great on two engines.
What I can tell you from experience is that the twin engine plane will not make your wife any more comfortable about flying. I have spent 25 years trying to find the perfect plane - I just found it. Todd, "6 Barons" seriously? what was your favorite? are there any to stay away from? Jesse Johnson had a nice list of options on an earlier post here.
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 17:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Adam, it sounds like you have a bad annual hangover?
LB Negative... annual was smooth, inexpensive and gas is as cheap as it's been since I've owned her. All good in Baron land 
It should be, you have a new airplane!!
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 17:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Funny when a guy comes onto Beechtalk with a simple question about a Baron, and the peanut gallery is selling him on Merridian, Cirrus's, Mustang jets, MU2's and pushing about anything other than the best light twin ever made. The Baron which is what he asked about to begin with. Strange days... It was posted on Brand X Talk.. It's fair game! 
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 18:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: Funny when a guy comes onto Beechtalk with a simple question about a Baron, and the peanut gallery is selling him on Merridian, Cirrus's, Mustang jets, MU2's and pushing about anything other than the best light twin ever made. The Baron which is what he asked about to begin with. Strange days... It was posted on Brand X Talk.. It's fair game!
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And let's not forget why the Jeffs started BT....... Because you couldn't find any damn information on Beechcraft airplanes. Everything before BT was OWT juts like "twins are safer".... OWT passed down by your 100 year old CFI and his 99 year old mechanic brother. 
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 18:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: Greg,
First, I LOVE the Barons. I have owned 6 of them.
Next, the Brochure from Beechcraft is probably for a non-booted, no A/C, and no radar plane. Deduct about 100-200 lbs for those items.
The Baron climbs great on two engines.
What I can tell you from experience is that the twin engine plane will not make your wife any more comfortable about flying. I have spent 25 years trying to find the perfect plane - I just found it. Todd, "6 Barons" seriously? what was your favorite? are there any to stay away from? Jesse Johnson had a nice list of options on an earlier post here.
For simplicity and performance a 1976-newer B55 with IO-550s is your best plane hands down. It will climb on one engine 500+ FPM at gross and will hold 14k on one engine as well. Simple fuel systems and simple airplane. The 58 has be barn doors, but it truly has no more baggage room and it is heavier in feel and slower, but also a good plane. The 58P is very nice, but much more labor intensive with turbos and pressurization. Not much faster considering the fuel burn, but much more useable since it can get above most weather.
If I had to pick one of them I would pick a Malibu er... B55 with 550s.
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 20:54 |
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Hello BT, Baron or Bust thread and no photos... I can fix that... Attachment: P1060104.JPG Attachment: IMG_1760.JPG Attachment: P1060110.JPG I hope this helps. 
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 21:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: Todd - why B over E? The E is a good choice also, but I prefer the extra performance and sporty feel of the B series. The extra nose baggage room is not needed since putting 6 in the plane puts you at gross with no weight left for bags and if you have 4 people you remove the rear seats and have more than enough baggage room. The B with the 550s is the best flying twin I have ever flown.
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 21:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have flown my E55 high, low, hot and heavy and have never thought, "Wow, this thing just doesn't have enough power." I maintain it's one of the greatest "stock" airplanes out there. Fly a B with 550s. You will throw rocks at other twins. What would be REALLY nice is a B with 10.5:1 pistons in the 550.
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Post subject: Re: Baron or Bust! Posted: 11 Nov 2014, 21:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have flown my E55 high, low, hot and heavy and have never thought, "Wow, this thing just doesn't have enough power." I maintain it's one of the greatest "stock" airplanes out there. Fly a B with 550s. You will throw rocks at other twins. What would be REALLY nice is a B with 10.5:1 pistons in the 550.
Todd,
Would you remove the rear seats and move the 2 back seats back further for better CG and more leg room for the passengers?
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