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 Post subject: Re: That PC12 is biiiiiiiig.
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I don't know whats the big thing about a relief tube


One of those things you have to experience to fully appreciate ;)

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Jason, give it 20 years and you will have to quit drinking 3 days before a flight to be able to go 4 hours without peeing :D

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Jason, give it 20 years and you will have to quit drinking 3 days before a flight to be able to go 4 hours without peeing :D

Ha. Yeah. I hear ya.

Something about when the first person uses the lav..... I might as well use it too.


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Relief tubes are gross. I just go into the lav. I had a PTT installed in there too.


So let me get this straight... You leave the cockpit, open the doors to the lav, which closes off the cockpit, and have a PTT to make radio calls?

Come on... :doh:


I don't see the problem. His passengers are safer with the autopilot running the show anyway...(no offense J)
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I'm in a small distinguished group of people in Jason's life. :rock:

It's ok, no hard feelings. I typically don't jump into Jason's debates, mainly because I agree with him. I like reading his post, the feeling isn't mutual. He's the cool kid that everyone wants to be, I'm the kid in the corner reading books.

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No, just one of the few that bought the PTT gag. Ha.

Look, if I could, I would. How nice would it be to set it in a cruise for a few hour flight, hop in back and have lunch and socialize. I guess that's what a 2nd pilot is for. But then you gotta deal with that 2nd pilot when you land. Unless she's hot it's a pita. :D

Just spoke with a guy I share a hangar with that had to fly commercial because he couldn't find a 2nd pilot for his 2 pilot jet. That's beyond insane to me.


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No, just one of the few that bought the PTT gag. Ha.

Look, if I could, I would. How nice would it be to set it in a cruise for a few hour flight, hop in back and have lunch and socialize. I guess that's what a 2nd pilot is for. But then you gotta deal with that 2nd pilot when you land. Unless she's hot it's a pita. :D

Just spoke with a guy I share a hangar with that had to fly commercial because he couldn't find a 2nd pilot for his 2 pilot jet. That's beyond insane to me.


Well if you did, you wouldn't be the first guy to use the lav while flying... I always laugh when I hear a king air say "I need to go off frequency for a bit" what king air doesn't have two radios? 50% chance he's popping a squat or getting snacks and a drink from the back...
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Just spoke with a guy I share a hangar with that had to fly commercial because he couldn't find a 2nd pilot for his 2 pilot jet. That's beyond insane to me.


Sounds like a job for NetJets.

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would want to play airline pilot at that level of financial ability. If it can't be flown single pilot, why bother to fly it at all?


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Pilatus and Pratt made all of those charts for a reason, not for you to simply set it at 780 and forget it.

I prefer 780 and forget. I'm not flying around doing 260.

I had an engine inspection 450 hours ago when I bought it. I have another due in another 50 so we shall see.

According to the torque chart, I can run around above 780.


We fly our NG at 780 in cruise also. The performance fluctuates with OAT's. It's how we were trained to fly it.

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Just spoke with a guy I share a hangar with that had to fly commercial because he couldn't find a 2nd pilot for his 2 pilot jet. That's beyond insane to me.


Sounds like a job for NetJets.

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would want to play airline pilot at that level of financial ability. If it can't be flown single pilot, why bother to fly it at all?


Completely agree, there's no real freedom of owning a plane if you have to go track down another pilot if you wanna go fly. Maybe if you do it John and Martha King style, husband and wife team, but that's a scary thought!!!

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Oh that makes sense. By the way I think your PC12 is one of the nicest I've seen. I see allot of them here Boise ID.


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We fly our NG at 780 in cruise also. The performance fluctuates with OAT's. It's how we were trained to fly it.


To each their own...

From the POH section 4 normal procedures

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4.12 item 2 Cruise
Power Control Lever-SET (according to cruise torque setting)
Says nothing about setting to ITT or setting to 780

From the POH section 5 performance
A shot of one max cruise power torque setting chart

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There isn't a single row or column that references ITT in these charts.

I'm not trying to come across as arrogant, mean or that you were taught wrong. What I'm saying is this is how the POH says to run the aircraft. For the last few pages of this I've been made out to seem like I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm 26, I'm use to people not taking me seriously. No one has given me any other explanation other than "that the way it's taught" and "everyone else does it this way." Who said that was correct? Like I said I'm the kid in the corner reading books....


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