BeechTalk - BT - Who wants to get a 737 type rating with me?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Nov 2013, 23:36

Username Protected wrote:

If you want to back it off a notch, go do a Citation Type Rating. One week course that will be a bit more "relaxed".

I am not too worried about it. Send me to NASA for 10 days and I will be flying the shuttle with one hand on the wheel ...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Nov 2013, 14:23

Found a partner thanks to Beechtalk!

By the end of January we will have 2 new 737 rated pilots here! :pilot:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Nov 2013, 14:33

You guys are going to have a blast, can't wait to hear the report. Study up...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Nov 2013, 15:09

Username Protected wrote:

I am not too worried about it. Send me to NASA for 10 days and I will be flying the shuttle with one hand on the wheel ...

The shuttle actually has a center stick.. :tape:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Nov 2013, 15:11

Username Protected wrote:

I am not too worried about it. Send me to NASA for 10 days and I will be flying the shuttle with one hand on the wheel ...

The shuttle actually has a center stick.. :tape:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Nov 2013, 19:44

This would be awesome. If I had a free 15 days I'd totally do it. Have fun!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Nov 2013, 10:49

Awesome idea. Then you can save the day while running hero scenarios in your head while ridding on the Southwest tube.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Nov 2013, 03:50

Username Protected wrote:

A 737 is a good jet to get your first "big airplane" type in. The systems are straightforward (for a big jet), and the airplane handles well.

The checkride is really straightforward in a steam panel 737. Not much button pushing at all.

Best,
Rich

I got my 737 Type back in 01'. I went to Higher Power in Dallas(hoping to interview at Southwest of course), great company by the way. They sent the books out a few months early, recommended 80 hours study time. I was busy and all, so I thought I'd atleast crack the books on the flight out there. I had already been a 121 Captain, 135 Chief Pilot, blah, blah, blah. Holy Sheot. I fell asleep every night with the books open on my chest in bed. Passed the oral on the 6th day. Sim started 2 days later. First day, it was like a monkey f....ing a football, second day not much better, thought I'd tear up my license...I had 3 more sim sessions and got everything down and passed my checkride, whew... By far the most challenging thing that I've done in aviation(of my own doing of course).

If you do go, study the profiles, systems, limitations and memory items before hand big time. The systems may be basic for jet guys, but they are very complex for a piston guy. Good luck and keep us posted, I would really like to hear your impression after you are done with it.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Nov 2013, 11:40

Username Protected wrote:

Sheesh. Get your ATP now!

Pilots pursuing an ATP certificate after July 31, 2014, in addition to having 1,500 hours, will have to complete a new, yet-to-be developed, ATP certification training program. The program, consisting of 30 hours of ground and 10 hours of simulator training, must be completed prior to being eligible to take the ATP written and practical tests. The 10 hours of simulator training will include six hours of training in a level C or D (full-motion) simulator. According to the rule, this course will only be offered through Part 141, 142, 135, or 121 certificate holders, not allowing for Part 61 flights schools to develop courses and provide the training.

Charles and Robert,
It appears that the new ATP training requirements only apply as a prerequisite to the knowledge test and not the practical. If you pass your written test before July 2014, you are grandfathered from the new training program and you have 2 years from the date of your knowledge test to pass your practical .

Quoted from the final rule.

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/recently_published/media/2120-AJ67.pdf

Quote:

§61.155 Aeronautical knowledge. ***** (c) * * * (14) After July 31, 2014, for airplane category multiengine class rating or airplane type rating, the content of the airline transport pilot certification training program in §61.156. (d) An applicant who successfully completes the knowledge test for an airline transport pilot certificate prior to August 1, 2014, must successfully complete the practical test within 24 months from the month in which the knowledge test was successfully completed. An applicant who passes the knowledge test prior to August 1, 2014, but fails to successfully complete the practical test within 24 months must complete the airline transport pilot certification training program specified in §61.156 and retake the knowledge test prior to applying for the practical test.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Nov 2013, 11:45

Username Protected wrote:

A 737 is a good jet to get your first "big airplane" type in. The systems are straightforward (for a big jet), and the airplane handles well.

The checkride is really straightforward in a steam panel 737. Not much button pushing at all.

Best,
Rich

I got my 737 Type back in 01'. I went to Higher Power in Dallas(hoping to interview at Southwest of course), great company by the way. They sent the books out a few months early, recommended 80 hours study time. I was busy and all, so I thought I'd atleast crack the books on the flight out there. I had already been a 121 Captain, 135 Chief Pilot, blah, blah, blah. Holy Sheot. I fell asleep every night with the books open on my chest in bed. Passed the oral on the 6th day. Sim started 2 days later. First day, it was like a monkey f....ing a football, second day not much better, thought I'd tear up my license...I had 3 more sim sessions and got everything down and passed my checkride, whew... By far the most challenging thing that I've done in aviation(of my own doing of course).

If you do go, study the profiles, systems, limitations and memory items before hand big time. The systems may be basic for jet guys, but they are very complex for a piston guy. Good luck and keep us posted, I would really like to hear your impression after you are done with it.[/quote]

Did mine in 05 at Higher Power. Great group of people there. I studied like mad for 3 weeks prior, several hours a day. The first day of class we had to take a test on systems. If you failed they made you do more classroom or sent you packing.
I felt prepared for the class (5 9 hour days), but the sim ate my lunch for the first 3 days. I did my sim in the -300 so had to spend a day learning the Honeywell FMS. This was my first type rating. I had around 4K hours then and my ATP. My goal was to get an interview with SWA!! Stll waiting for that phone call.[/quote]

I put my name on that test and took it up to the front desk. I couldn't answer any of the questions. They told me I was more than welcome to stay, but chances were that I wouldn't make it. Love a good challenge...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Nov 2013, 18:42

The hope to be picked up by SWA seems to create an entire market for self-funded 737 type ratings

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Nov 2013, 23:03

Username Protected wrote:

The hope to be picked up by SWA seems to create an entire market for self-funded 737 type ratings

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Yes, and most likely the original business model of Higher Power Aviation.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Jan 2014, 20:44

Well, you are looking at BeechTalk's 2 freshest 737 Captains. It was a long, interesting, and fun past couple of weeks in Vegas with Marcus Pradel ....

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Jan 2014, 21:11

That's awesome!!!

Congratulations to both of you!

- Martin

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Jan 2014, 21:16

Alright, let's hear how it went! Congrats. :thumbup: