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 Post subject: 5th seat in f33a
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2012, 20:53 
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Can anyone direct me to a website (place) that explains how to install a 5th seat in a f33A bonanza???? I have the seat, but don't know how to install it.
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Dave Ruckle


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 Post subject: Re: 5th seat in f33a
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2012, 06:31 
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Can anyone direct me to a website (place) that explains how to install a 5th seat in a f33A bonanza???? I have the seat, but don't know how to install it.
Thanks,
Dave Ruckle


Welcome aboard Dave....no one here will believe you have that seat. :lol: ...they'll want pictures. :rofl: :lol:

Post a pic or two...you'll receive tons of help.

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Run a weight and balance with someone in the fifth seat before you waste your time installing it. I had one in my V-35B. About the only thing you could put back there is an anorexic eight-year old or a cat.

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PostPosted: 27 Sep 2012, 00:08 
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Run a weight and balance with someone in the fifth seat before you waste your time installing it. I had one in my V-35B. About the only thing you could put back there is an anorexic eight-year old or a cat.

Happy Landings!

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Don't put the two together either unless you want a half eaten cat AND an aircraft out of the CG envelope!


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A friend of mine has been flying his wife and three girls in his S35 for almost 20 years. His latest trip with all aboard was non-stop to Washington Island, WI, in August. One just needs to know how to load a plane with the fifth seat occupied...heaviest persons forward and heaviest baggage in the foot wells of the co-pilot and second row, etc.

Installation of the fifth seat requires two fasteners in the floorboard just forward of the rear bulkhead. Two brackets fit into the fasteners and the seat legs fit into the brackets. I do not know the part numbers nor do I have a schematic. Hopefully someone will post this information.

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A friend of mine has been flying his wife and three girls in his S35 for almost 20 years. His latest trip with all aboard was non-stop to Washington Island, WI, in August. One just needs to know how to load a plane with the fifth seat occupied...heaviest persons forward and heaviest baggage in the foot wells of the co-pilot and second row, etc.

Installation of the fifth seat requires two fasteners in the floorboard just forward of the rear bulkhead. Two brackets fit into the fasteners and the seat legs fit into the brackets. I do not know the part numbers nor do I have a schematic. Hopefully someone will post this information.


Max,

Yes, and wasn't there a few planes delivered without that hardware, or the supporting hardware below? That would be a job to install, but not impossible.

And, yes, the Bo can handle folks in the fifth seat. I did it all the time, just like you explained. Limiting, but doable.

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Dave,

The brackets that you need are 96-534051-81 & 82. If you have them, look under the carpet just forward of the rear bulkhead and you should find the attach points already installed. You need two bolts per bracket ( I don't remember the size). Be sure to have the correct spacers for the seat belt attach points. Installation is not difficult, and just takes a few minutes. I wish I had a schematic for you, but I know that you can find one if you search.

The seat is very handy to have in the right situations (small kids and grandkids). I've been pleased on numerous occasions that I have this option. Hope you enjoy yours.

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Anybody know anyone who has one for sale?


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Anybody know anyone who has one for sale?


Try here www.bonanzaparts.biz


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Hi, i am new to this forum and to Bonanzas. Based in London, England and hoping to shortly purchase an 1989 F33A. I have 3 children aged 10, 8 and 5, and having browsed this forum and elsewhere, found some useful C of G calculation tools which I am applying to the specific aircraft. I also see advice in this Forum about managing the aft C of G on the F33A including by loading heavy baggage as forward as possible, sliding the 2nd row seats forward for landing if there has been significant fuel burn pushing the C of G back towards its limit, etc

I have a couple of questions and I hope I am not raising often-covered ground. Are there any modification that are known for the F33A that can have the effect of shifting the C of G forwards, eg removing any heavy equipment / accessories for lighter more modern versions?

How does the F33A handle on the aft limit of C of G?

Many thanks in advance from sunny London...


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I can't really speak of the F33, But I do have a family of of five, and can tell you the V35 flys great at the aft CG at any weight.
I would expect the F33 to handle the same, maybe better in pitch. I feel the the aft CG limit is very conservative for normal flight, that is based on my own experience with full loads at the aft limit.

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