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 Post subject: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
PostPosted: 29 Dec 2010, 13:56 
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So, I've been playing around with trials on both. Pros and Cons to both.

What are your thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
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ForeFlight: Best on the Ground

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 Post subject: Re: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
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I'm very happy with Foreflight. Last I checked there was no trial for WingX, has that changed?

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 Post subject: Re: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
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I'm very happy with Foreflight. Last I checked there was no trial for WingX, has that changed?


I am on a trial now. 30 days. I guess they changed to compete with ForeFlight.

I am liking ForeFlight better. One main reason is U can't figure out how to get IFR enroute and VFR charts on WingX???

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 Post subject: Re: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
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I agree. Where are the charts?

So far my $1 trial will not turn into a $100 purchase.


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I agree. Where are the charts?

So far my $1 trial will not turn into a $100 purchase.


I predict you will not like this but here goes:

Unlike Foreflight where you can select maps, WingX Pro7 presents its charts within the moving map area. You can add layers to the presentation like airspaces, airways, runway headings, terrain and Wx, but you cannot extract a sectional or Lo chart and view it.

You can get information on airports, airways, and intersections by touching the word or symbol on the map. You cannot get detailed information on the moving map like you can with a scanned Lo or Sectional chart. This is why I like Foreflight for planning.

In flight, I like WingX because the map flies along with the aircraft. You can scan ahead by moving your finger on the map and it will return to the aircraft position after a few seconds. What I do not like is you cannot zoom in and out with the finger pinch method and you cannot zoom out far enough to see the entire route if it is long. I hear this is coming in the next few months with a software upgrade.

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I have Foreflight at this time and my subscription doesn't run out till October, I would bet by then Foreflight, Wing X, and Airguide will all have done several upgrades.
It's a race to see who will have the best and most usefull features, and the biggest winner is us pilots. The free enterprise system working just as it should, you gota love it.

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 Post subject: Re: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
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It's a race to see who will have the best and most usefull features, and the biggest winner is us pilots. The free enterprise system working just as it should, you gota love it.

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I have paid for both. I had ForeFlight first and have used it for almost a year. I added wingx only because of the geo-referenced taxi charts. I have used the wingx in flights but prefer Foreflight especially when VFR. Wingx is not for VFR.

When flying to Buffalo for the ABS Convention I flew the flight VFR with the section charts from ForeFlight. I could drag the chart to see ahead of my route and zoom in which you cannot do in wingx.

I have a 530W so some things in wingx are redundent. Wingx works for me only when I land at large airports and the geo-refenced tazi charts are of great use..

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Does Foreflight show your position progressively on enroute charts ?....Approach plates ?

Just purchased this week


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 Post subject: Re: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
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Wesley, Foreflight does show your position Geo referenced on the charts.
Not on the approach plates.
You have to have the 3G version of the I Pad, or an add-on GPS receiver.

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Unlike Foreflight where you can select maps, WingX Pro7 presents its charts within the moving map area. You can add layers to the presentation like airspaces, airways, runway headings, terrain and Wx.


The elephant in the room here is airways and charts on a moving map.

ForeFlight, are you listening?


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Unlike Foreflight where you can select maps, WingX Pro7 presents its charts within the moving map area. You can add layers to the presentation like airspaces, airways, runway headings, terrain and Wx.


The elephant in the room here is airways and charts on a moving map.

ForeFlight, are you listening?


ForeFlight does airways and displays them on the maps. Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but they do have that feature incorporated.
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ForeFlight does airways and displays them on the maps. Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but they do have that feature incorporated.


BUT their approach plates are not geo-referenced.

Their co-founder told me in an email yesterday to 'stay tuned' :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:


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 Post subject: Re: iPad- ForeFlight vs. WingX Pro7
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I have ForeFlight with a Bad Elf GPS receiver on a yoke mounted iPad. I can't speak for WingX Pro7 because I am completely unfamiliar.

I can tell you that I love ForeFlight for both in flight and especially flight planning. The ability to add waypoints, drag and drop your route to add waypoints, etc. is unbelievable. I recently flight planned a trip from CT to Florida by dragging a line from my departure airport to destination airport and then dragged in various waypoints along the way. I was able to pick a fuel stop near the midpoint of the route and knew in advance that I was paying a very low price for fuel by utilizing Foreflight' built in fuel price feature. The addition of the Bad Elf receiver adding position information in flight was a huge improvement.

With the exception of position information on approach plates (which I too have heard is coming) I can't think of anything else I would expect from it.

I also use and like the scratchpad feature when copying clearances in place of paper and pencil which is a very cool feature.

Disclaimer: I am a new owner (Beech Sierra purchased in October), non-IFR pilot (although I am going through training now and hope to have IFR in the next few months) with no IFR approved GPS. I do have the Garmin Aera 560 with XM dash mounted (also highly recommended without valid comparison data).

A quick story - On my return flight in the previously mentioned trip to Florida I was over New York's class B airspace (7,500) when the controller asked me to confirm my altitude. My altimeter was reporting 7,500, but apparently my transponder was reporting 7,000 (and fluctuating greatly). My training has taught me that Altimeters rarely fail, so I had a fair amount of confidence that it was accurate. I had commercial flights in my area approaching from my 6 at 7,000 - BTW I had no strobe, and the commercial planes were reporting not being able to see reported traffic (me). Thankfully I had both the Aera 560 AND Foreflight on the iPad showing that my altitude was 7,000 NOT 7,500 as indicated on my altimeter. I believe what happened was a static air problem (it was 19 degrees C and my static air may have partially blocked with condensation/ice). Needless to say I flew altitude by GPS for the remainder of the flight. The point is that without 2 GPS altitude positions I would not have known to believe my Garmin Aera 560 or altimeter in a situation where altitude was critical.

I have subsequently added a strobe light to my tail and an alternate static source so hopefully I will avoid similar problems in the future. Sorry for the digression but i thought this little story might be helpful.


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