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 Post subject: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
PostPosted: 26 Nov 2010, 21:58 
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I've read all the threads here about how to replace the exterior door handle spring but after working all day, still no luck.

What does the hooked end of the spring connect to? It says to connect it to the aft screw in Colvin's Clinic but that doesn't work.

I was able to remove the entire horizontal door latch rod and latch but still can't determine where to connect the spring.

Any ideas?

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Marty Mitchell
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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
PostPosted: 26 Nov 2010, 22:42 
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Hi Marty,

This has to be one of the most difficult things ever imagined to do. I have looked at mine for hours and cannot figure out how to replace that spring. It is worse than building a ship in a bottle. :pullhair:

If you figure it out or come upon someone that can, I would BUY your pictures :bow:

Mike (has had his replacement spring for 6 years)

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
PostPosted: 26 Nov 2010, 22:50 
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Hopefully someone will know the answer and post it here. Only time will tell.

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
PostPosted: 27 Nov 2010, 00:38 
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Marty,

Contact Kevin O'Halloran of Cordell, OK. He knows everything about Beech doors and is willing to help. He gave a Beech door seminar at Oskosh this year. He helped us fix our door earlier this year that had everyone else scratching their heads.

Don't have his contact information at home but he is an ABS member and is on CSO Beech. If you can't find his contact info, let me know and I will send it when I get to my office on Monday.

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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Hi David,

Thanks! I will try to contact him at the email address published in an earlier thread. If not able, I will let you know.

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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I fixed mine this summer, but I did it the "wrong" way. I removed the entire mechanicsm from the door by disconnecting the rod, removing all the screws from the door handle exterior, unscrewing the latch and forcing the entire mess out through the access hole on the inside of the door (which got a little larger as part of the operation). It was remarkably simple to fix outside of the aircraft ;-)

Then I went to OSH and saw Kevin's demonstration...and felt stupid for a while afterwards. Following his demo, it's actually not as hard as you might think. He doesn't remove all of the screws from the door handle; just the one tha holds the pin in place. Then he uses a long pair of pliers to pull the pin out (down) and replace the spring. The spring wraps in between the handle and the door frame with the aft screw holding it in place (the aft screw seen from outside the door).

I'm happy to help explain it further, but Kevin is the real expert.

On a slightly different topic; has anyone ever fixed the spring in the D-handle of the A36 rear door?


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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your reply. The aft screw only protrudes into the door about 1/16" beyond the inner door handle ring. I tried to secure the hook end of the spring around the end of the screw, but it doesn't align properly, nor is the screw end long enough to hold it.

Is the aft screw suppose to be extra long? I have the short end of the coil spring against the door handle facing aft and the long end (with the hook) also facing aft at the bottom of the coil. Is that the correct orientation?

Any additional tips you have would be appreciated.

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Marty Mitchell

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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The spring hook end goes between the door skin and the door handle frame. It's actually between the door skin and the rubber seal. The last thing that the screw gos into is the door handle frame. Does this help?


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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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Hi Jeff,

Yes, I understand what you are saying. I was wondering if that's where it might go but didn't think it looked like an engineer would have done it that way. I'll give that a try tomorrow and see how it goes.

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Marty Mitchell

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
PostPosted: 27 Nov 2010, 09:20 
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I know what you mean. There's so much about these planes that seems designed by real engineering geninus...then there's a few other things that make you wonder if they gave their kids a day at the office...

Inspection covers on the top of the tail anyone??


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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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I replaced my spring recently. There was more studying what to do more than was the work to do it. You will have to start by taking off door panel so can get to back of latch. The screw at the front bottom outside of door goes under a pin that goes through the spring and a bushing that the door handle pivots on. Once the pin is removed the handle will pull out side the door. I held the pin from falling to the inside bottom of door while my son loosened the screw. Once the handle was pulled out we put the screw back in to hold pin in place until ready to put handle back. There are 2 arms to disconnect from handle then handle will be free to take where you want after you get the old spring from under the far back screw. Replace old spring on handle by removing the bushing that goes through the spring then reverse all this. Not much work but will need help. It sounds complicated but if you are at all mechanical it will all fall in place once you get into it. Hope this helps, if not I will try tell you more.

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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I fixed mine this summer, but I did it the "wrong" way. I removed the entire mechanicsm from the door by disconnecting the rod, removing all the screws from the door handle exterior, unscrewing the latch and forcing the entire mess out through the access hole on the inside of the door (which got a little larger as part of the operation). It was remarkably simple to fix outside of the aircraft ;-)

Then I went to OSH and saw Kevin's demonstration...and felt stupid for a while afterwards. Following his demo, it's actually not as hard as you might think. He doesn't remove all of the screws from the door handle; just the one tha holds the pin in place. Then he uses a long pair of pliers to pull the pin out (down) and replace the spring. The spring wraps in between the handle and the door frame with the aft screw holding it in place (the aft screw seen from outside the door).

I'm happy to help explain it further, but Kevin is the real expert.

On a slightly different topic; has anyone ever fixed the spring in the D-handle of the A36 rear door?


Yes, John Whitehead fixed (replaced) the D handle spring, perhaps, he'll chime in.

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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This has been some great info folks! :bow:

I am encouraged to try again with my 6 year old NOS spring :clap:

Mike

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 Post subject: Re: Bonanza Exterior Door Handle Spring Replacement
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Thanks Glenn,

The missing piece of info that Jeff provided might be the solution I needed. The hooked end of the spring needs to be hooked around the aft screw of the exterior door handle ring between two layers, the skin and the rubber seal.

I will try installing it again today and report back with my success (hopefully).

Marty Mitchell

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Marty, the far left screw that you see from the outside should go back in after the hook on the spring is placed at the proper spot, that is to keep spring from coming out.

Glenn

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