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 Post subject: Where reskin elevators?
PostPosted: 18 Mar 2010, 03:01 
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we are looking for place where re-skin our Debonair elevators. Any suggestion?


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your location would be helpful!

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your location would be helpful!

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I know that this is awful early to thread jack, it's really more of a thread borrow :ahhh: ,
but I was wondering if there are any folks that re-skin the elevators / ruddervators in aluminum vs magnesium? Or is this not allowed for some reason?

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SRS in MN has an STC to reskin Baron elevators in Al. All others still need to be mag because of balance issues.

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we are located in Europe but as far as I know there isn't any shop which offers this kind of service. I know about SRS but is there any other possibilities?

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Princeton in KY (?), Stebbins in KY, Biggs in OK, AeroSurfaces in CA, Beegles in CO,

take your pick and I can give you the contact info.

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Princeton in KY (?), Stebbins in KY, Biggs in OK, AeroSurfaces in CA, Beegles in CO,

take your pick and I can give you the contact info.

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Thanks.

What you recommend - magnesium or aluminum skins? Any experience what option /shop will be cheaper?


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Have you checked with one of the european beechcraft service centers ? I imagine that shipping an expensive and bulky item like an entire elevator is going to add considerable expense to the project.

(I have traveled with a complete elevator and 2 companions on a commuter train before, don't think you can take it as cabin luggage on a commercial flight)


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Princeton in KY (?), Stebbins in KY, Biggs in OK, AeroSurfaces in CA, Beegles in CO,

take your pick and I can give you the contact info.

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Thanks.

What you recommend - magnesium or aluminum skins? Any experience what option /shop will be cheaper?


SRS MAY have an authorization to do the alum. elevators on the Deb, but I'm not sure. With the new mag skins (avail from Beech only) being primered and baked, corrosion is less of a problem than it was 20 years ago.

The prices are competitive....cheaper is not always better in the airplane repair world.
Unless you are an airline pilot! :rofl:
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The contact info for those shops is available in the ABS magazine.
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I do not suggest just shopping for price on this job. Magnesium skins are available to anyone from Beech, but installing and protecting them is a critical skill. More specifically, the correct prep/priming/painting is all the difference. There are very subtle details on the prime/paint process that are critical.

Stebbins Aviation in Louisville, Kentucky (http://www.stebbinsaviation.com) did ours. Price was comparable to any reputable shop quote, they have the shipping crates if you need them, and the parts are beautiful. Stebbins did the re-skin all the way through the finished paint work. They matched the plane paint perfectly.

There are other shops mentioned here that have similar reputations. The ABS website also lists names and numbers. If you're in Europe, it will surely be more difficult, but the extra effort is worth it.


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SRS's website says they do all 33 models. It appears they have a solid success rate and since they do so many, are aware of the problem areas. You might want to look at their website, http://www.srsaviation.com/index.htm

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The prices are competitive....cheaper is not always better in the airplane repair world.
Unless you are an airline pilot! :rofl:
:duck:
Now for a full fledged thread hijacking. You guys crack me up with the jabs at airline pilots being cheap. I never knew that personally but I think you're right although I did'nt blame it on being airline pilots at the time. When I was selling my Mooney (after buying my A36) 3 airline pilots flew in from NM to check it out in Ohio (it's a wonder they did'nt hit me up for the airfare). After the most chicken-sh*t sqwk list and me spending about $1500.00 trying to please these CSOB, I finally pulled the plug and told them to take a hike. No problem, they told me one of the partners had cold feet and the other two could'nt swing it. All for a $75,000.00 airplane. Guess you're right! :pullhair:


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They didn't pay for their airfare...
jumpseat all the way.

Tough to be a ferry pilot who is not an airline employee. We have to ask for the customer to buy a ticket!


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It seems that best place to re-skin elevators is SRS! Price is also quite OK.
Anyway I found used elevators in excellent condition from Europe but they are form '88 F33.
So does anybody know are they the same in '67 35-C33 and '88 F33?

Johan


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