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 Post subject: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
PostPosted: 10 Mar 2010, 13:17 
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FAA says it is a 1962 Model JRB-6, Serial Number 39796.
Ad calls it a twin-beech, but I do not see twin tails.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962-TWI ... 3a5893b580


http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... rtxt=250RM


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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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It's a Tradewind conversion - single tail.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.s ... 0Tradewind

Gotta luv Google. :D

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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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I see radial engines. Isn't a 'Tradewinds conversion' a turbine deal ?


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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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The Beech 18 Tradewinds conversion was done by Pacific Airmotive Corp., which is different entity than Tradewinds Turbines Corp.

Not like I know this stuff. Google is the man behind the curtains. :pilot:

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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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So I wonder how one of those flys? A lot less drag than that twin tail, but I wonder if there is enough rudder. I remember some pretty wild tales around here about trips through the pasture with 2 rudders.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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"Tradewinds conversion with the single tail. Incidentally the vertical stabilizer is made from a Twin Beech horizontal stabilizer turned on end, cut and fit to form the vertical".

Google power. I would really have to wonder about rudder authority.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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I've seen a few of these conversions before... they're just wrong, IMHO. Round motors and tricycle gear just looks strange to me. Not much ramp appeal... and that conventional tail makes my eyes water.:sad:
I think Beech had the right idea! :cheers:
Now a Beech 18 on floats is sexy. :dancing:

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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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Sheble Aviation in Bullhead City has a TBeech on floats now.
The Tradewind had a lot of upgrades. The twin tails put a rudder behind each engine which is only an advantage when both engines are blowing air past them of course.
But the PAC airplane flies just fine. There's been no more incidence of problems related to directional control then any other Beech to my knowledge. Less actually, given their are so few of them.
We had this one in our Hangar for a couple weeks and it actually started to grow on me.
I think the 2 blade props make it look funnier then the tail or the tri gear.
I gre up around Whiteman airport, where this one is based.
Frank and Bob Nixon were trying to fit a nose wheel on an 18. 1958? We made fun of them! Tom :harhar:


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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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Ever see a Tri Geared Loadstar? yep......


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The Tradewinds conversion flies just like the twin-tailed version.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm Confused with this one, What is it?
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Maybe you will....Ill be home in bed! :ohno:


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Man those props looks really close to the ground. I hope it's an illusion bit it looks like 8 inches. I think there is one of these at Ramona, ca

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"Tradewinds conversion with the single tail. Incidentally the vertical stabilizer is made from a Twin Beech horizontal stabilizer turned on end, cut and fit to form the vertical".

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I have to ask: if the horizontal stab is removed and cut to make the new vertical stab, what is used fort he new horizontal stab?


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"Tradewinds conversion with the single tail. Incidentally the vertical stabilizer is made from a Twin Beech horizontal stabilizer turned on end, cut and fit to form the vertical".

Jim


I have to ask: if the horizontal stab is removed and cut to make the new vertical stab, what is used fort he new horizontal stab?


I think they graft-on the tail section of a late Queen Air.
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