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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is so far out in front.......
PostPosted: 16 May 2013, 18:14 
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8 pages in one day? You guys have nothing to do.

Its just a Cirrus with new avionics. Whats the big deal?

Go fly one

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is so far out in front.......
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Why?
I fly the fastest single engine certified aircraft in the world?


:doh:

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Why?
I fly the fastest single engine certified aircraft in the world?


I do believe the Dassault Mirage or the Falcon is the fastest single engine plane :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is so far out in front.......
PostPosted: 16 May 2013, 18:26 
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This is what a flight looks like in 25 years. See what Jason thinks lol. You type in what the street address is to your destination while you're at home. It sends it to the airplane. The airplane picks the airport closest to your destination. It automatically flies an ifr flight plan with alternate. If you need a rental car or hotel you can have the airplane send messages to the FBO youre going to have them line that up. You type in your passenger and baggage weights and the plane automatically gives the FBO a fuel order to match the filed flight plan plus reserves. You show up to the airport flip the master switch on and hit the ''preflight'' button it moves all controls, test all lights, checks all fluid levels. Then you do a simple walk around. You get in the airplane press one button and start it like a car. Your flight plan is already loaded and ready to go from when you sent it at home. Your PFD no longer has synthetic vision its now overlaid with google maps. So what what you see below you is actually what is below just like on your computer. You take off and hit the auto pilot button. Along the route the avionics have voice recognition so when ATC gives you a reroute it automatically loads it into the airplane and it flies the new route. It switches fuel tanks for you. The airplane has a stick shaker AND auto throttles. When ATC gives you and approach the voice recognition puts the approach in. The airplane will bring you down to approach minimums hands off on approach speed you flair and land. You taxi in before shut down the airplane runs its own diagnostics and sends it to your mechanic. It schedules its own oil changes and annual inspections.... OK Jason lets hear it... :hide:


How many on BT are old enough to remember these guys?
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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is so far out in front.......
PostPosted: 16 May 2013, 18:28 
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This is what a flight looks like in 25 years. See what Jason thinks lol. You type in what the street address is to your destination while you're at home. It sends it to the airplane. The airplane picks the airport closest to your destination. It automatically flies an ifr flight plan with alternate. If you need a rental car or hotel you can have the airplane send messages to the FBO youre going to have them line that up. You type in your passenger and baggage weights and the plane automatically gives the FBO a fuel order to match the filed flight plan plus reserves. You show up to the airport flip the master switch on and hit the ''preflight'' button it moves all controls, test all lights, checks all fluid levels. Then you do a simple walk around. You get in the airplane press one button and start it like a car. Your flight plan is already loaded and ready to go from when you sent it at home. Your PFD no longer has synthetic vision its now overlaid with google maps. So what what you see below you is actually what is below just like on your computer. You take off and hit the auto pilot button. Along the route the avionics have voice recognition so when ATC gives you a reroute it automatically loads it into the airplane and it flies the new route. It switches fuel tanks for you. The airplane has a stick shaker AND auto throttles. When ATC gives you and approach the voice recognition puts the approach in. The airplane will bring you down to approach minimums hands off on approach speed you flair and land. You taxi in before shut down the airplane runs its own diagnostics and sends it to your mechanic. It schedules its own oil changes and annual inspections.... OK Jason lets hear it... :hide:

You think I disagree with this? I agree.

The technology exists right now to do this easily. The only thing standing in the way is Government.


The part I like best about this post is that amid all this high tech auto-routing and auto-flight.. ATC is still delivering instructions via radio. and I don't doubt for a minute that will be true. As JC points out the huge speed bump will be the government.

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All Cirrus needs to do is build a a 6 place airframe with barn doors. That's the only thing keeping the Baron and Bonanza alive at this point if they are truly still alive.


Klapmeier's Kestrel :thumbup:


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I don't see Beech competing successfully with Cirrus in the selling of new piston singles for at least a few years....maybe never.

Bring back the V-tail with glass cockpit and the go-fast engine :duck:


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These are military, I said certified.

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Why?
I fly the fastest single engine certified aircraft in the world?


I do believe the Dassault Mirage or the Falcon is the fastest single engine plane :D

Tim

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All Cirrus needs to do is build a a 6 place airframe with barn doors. That's the only thing keeping the Baron and Bonanza alive at this point if they are truly still alive.


Klapmeier's Kestrel :thumbup:


Beech should just acquire them...

...and mostly get out of their way EXCEPT insist they change that tail design to the V!

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