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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet?  Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 13:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Wow - look at how their new orders have gone through the roof in 2012. Do you suppose this is all driven by the PC-12? - Martin
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 13:20 |
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The biggest piece of Pilatus is military contracts. Pilatus builds a single turbine military trainer much like one in the AF contract that Beech recently lost. That revenue is critical for stability and funding future projects. http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/#39View "training systems".
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 13:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: In the report, it looks like they do a lot of military trainers also. But they are booked with orders for 4 years it says. the T-6 we think comes from Beechcraft is really a rebranded Pilatus PC-9..
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 14:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: That Grob sits very high above the wing - should be a nice, tall cabin for its size.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 14:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: That Grob sits very high above the wing - should be a nice, tall cabin for its size.
Agreed. looks like a tall oval fuse x-section, too.
Is that a composite fuse?
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 15:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: Agreed. looks like a tall oval fuse x-section, too.
Is that a composite fuse? Yes. Brought the company to its knees. The concept behind the SpN was that it would be a 'Jet PC12', able to operate off gravel runways, without need for ground services etc.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 15:19 |
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Username Protected wrote: In the report, it looks like they do a lot of military trainers also. But they are booked with orders for 4 years it says. the T-6 we think comes from Beechcraft is really a rebranded Pilatus PC-9..
....with different ejection seats, avionics and some structural changes.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 15:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes. Brought the company to its knees.
Well looks like somebody is taking their turn. Lesson for me is Jet Fever can wipe you out..... But what a way to go!
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 15:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes. Brought the company to its knees.
Well looks like somebody is taking their turn. Lesson for me is Jet Fever can wipe you out..... But what a way to go!
Well, I am hopeful about the Pilatus effort. If they are indeed taking over the SpN project, I think there is a good chance of them seing it through. Grob had some prototypes flying when they lost one and the company got into trouble. So a lot of the certification work is already done.
Last I heard, they had reorganized their military piston trainer business and I believe they are still building the fuselage tubes for the Lear 85. Aircraft were only a side business for Grob, his core business were assembly lines for the german automotive manufacturers. With the troubles in the world economy at the time, I am not sure it was the Jet alone that caused the company to get in trouble.
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Post subject: Re: Pilatus Jet? Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 16:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: Well then won't they be starting from scratch?
Or is the PC 12 a Grob design? I don't know and that's just a rumor I heard. Could be totally wrong.
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