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Post subject: Re: Rutan Boomerang Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 09:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaled_Composites_Boomerang
Exhibit A in the trial of GA vs. FAA
Why hasn't this been snapped up and produced by a real manufacturer? A guess...a huge dose of reality. Keep in mind that young Morrow, a very successful snowboard manufacturer/entrepreneur, with a business degree, an aeronautical engineering degree, experience as an airplane mechanic and flight instructor, probably realized eventually the business model just didn't work. 
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Post subject: Re: Rutan Boomerang Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 10:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaled_Composites_Boomerang
Exhibit A in the trial of GA vs. FAA
Why hasn't this been snapped up and produced by a real manufacturer? A guess...a huge dose of reality.
A bureaucratic reality - not an aeronautical one.
That, and it's ugly as sin.
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Post subject: Re: Rutan Boomerang Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 10:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: That, and it's ugly as sin.
Ugly?? The Boomerang is a beautifully engineered machine. Quite stunning (in a positive way  )
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Post subject: Re: Rutan Boomerang Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 10:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone have a picture? I can't find one Here ya go.....
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Post subject: Re: Rutan Boomerang Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 10:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone have a picture? I can't find one I've seen some but don't know where. Anyway...picture an engine on the nose, one on the port wing, and an Aircoupe-type tail with vertical stabilizers/rudders asymmetrically aligned with the fuselage but somewhat in line with the engines. A very ugly airplane.
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Post subject: Re: Rutan Boomerang Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 12:23 |
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Or a single bed in the pontoon.
Those speeds with those engines are pretty awesome, and single engine is reportedly a non-issue.
I like the looks, except the round pilot/co-pilot windows, I think the cabin is wider than most also.
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Post subject: Re: Rutan Boomerang Posted: 20 Apr 2011, 14:52 |
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Rutan is a aviation icon, a brilliant guy, and certainly he has pushed the limits of nearly everything in aviation....
My perception is that part of the secret to the efficiency of his designs is his ability to cut everything so incredibly closet to the edge. The Voyager had something like a 1.5 G structural failure limit. It is nearly unbelievable that they could build a machine that big that is that fragile and make it fly around the world?
When you subject structures that are built close to the edge problems arise in certification, and then the fixes add weight. My understanding is that is what happened to the Starship.
When you make it heavier, range suffers, so it needs more gas, which makes it heavier, which means it needs more strength, which makes it heavier, which means it needs more gas.......
I do not believe, that a single one of his aircraft designs has been commercially successful.
It paid about $30,000 in tuition to learn that lesson... I was an early investor in Visionaire, one of the first VLJ concepts...
To be clear, I am not blaming all of Visionaire's demise on Rutan. My understanding is that the Starship, and the Visionaire Vantage, got caught in the endless loop described above. Beech ended up with an airplane with poor numbers and Visionaire ran out of money.
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