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 Post subject: 777 taking off on 4000' Runway, No Problem!
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2010, 10:24 
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These British Airways pilots screwed up, took wrong taxiway and ended up with an intersection takeoff. Lack of proper signage at St. Kitts was blamed, plus it was the first trip there for both pilots.

I think I could look out the front window and notice the difference between 4000' & 7000'.

When rotating, they noticed grass underneath the nose. Extra pair of underwear needed.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11153545

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 Post subject: Re: 777 taking off on 4000' Runway, No Problem!
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Why would he not use full length? Was there no access for him to the end of the runway? I wouldn't accept an intersection takeoff in the company jet, let alone a 777.


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They were confused with the whole "line up and wait" thing.

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44 year old capt? Not in the USA! Isn't it sad they don't have moving maps on that plane.


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44 is quite young for a Heavy captain. But, 24 or 64 and everywhere in between, knucklehead moves are made.

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As he taxied out on to the active he had runway on the right and left as he turned to line up on the center. A rather large clue to ignore.


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87 Pax on a 777. Must have climbed like a scalded dog.


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These British Airways pilots screwed up, took wrong taxiway and ended up with an intersection takeoff. Lack of proper signage at St. Kitts was blamed, plus it was the first trip there for both pilots.

I think I could look out the front window and notice the difference between 4000' & 7000'.

When rotating, they noticed grass underneath the nose. Extra pair of underwear needed.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11153545


Even at the lowest possible takeoff weight, there was no way this takeoff was legal in terms of minimum V1 or an engine failure scenario.

An RTO (rejected takeoff) or engine failure at V1 would have left very long and very deep tyre marks in the grass.

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Check out the airport diagram on page 2 here:

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cf ... on%201.pdf

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Hard to conceive of that! :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Check out the airport diagram on page 2 here:

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cf ... on%201.pdf

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Hard to conceive of that! :oops: :oops: :oops:


Is that the reported incident or does that happen on a regular basis ?


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That's the reported incident. It's in the news now because the report was just issued.

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