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 Post subject: NewBee with questions
PostPosted: 08 Jul 2010, 19:29 
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Just picked up my '97 A36 and went fassssst! Beats the #%@# out of my '80 Warrior. Puzzled though, seller says run 20 degrees LOP when appropriate and save gas, mechanic says ROP and save valves! What do y'all do, and has anyone experienced the shortened life of the valves from running LOP. BTW just have CHT on my bird no fancy stuff. Thanks for any good tips.


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 Post subject: Re: NewBee with questions
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I don't speak for other's but I wouldn't run LOP without GAMI's and something like a JPI 700 or equiv. Welcome


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 Post subject: Re: NewBee with questions
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Anthony,

Welcome to BeechTalk. You've raised the topic that has been one of the most discussed topics in the history of this organization. There are many threads here that discuss it.

Also, read the several issues of Pelican's Perch articles written by John Deakin for AVweb for a starter, and then you'll be ready to open the rest of the firehose of information on this topic....

Enjoy that Bonanza!

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Just picked up my '97 A36 and went fassssst! Beats the #%@# out of my '80 Warrior. Puzzled though, seller says run 20 degrees LOP when appropriate and save gas, mechanic says ROP and save valves! What do y'all do, and has anyone experienced the shortened life of the valves from running LOP. BTW just have CHT on my bird no fancy stuff. Thanks for any good tips.




Well, you have a decision to make.

1. Try to educate your mechanic, who has engine management wrong.

2. Ignore your mechanic on issues of how to run your engine (you don't have a piano tuner teach you to play).

3. Find another mechanic who understands engine management.

It would be a really good idea for you to take the APS class (online or in person). It's a game-changer. http://www.advancedpilot.com

Also, use the search feature here on Beech Talk to look up engine management, LOP, mixture, etc. There's a lot here.

Oh, and if you haven't done it, begin reading John Deakin's wonderful articles (written under the column title Pelican's Perch.

http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/182146-1.html) .

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Just picked up my '97 A36 and went fassssst! Beats the #%@# out of my '80 Warrior. Puzzled though, seller says run 20 degrees LOP when appropriate and save gas, mechanic says ROP and save valves! What do y'all do, and has anyone experienced the shortened life of the valves from running LOP. BTW just have CHT on my bird no fancy stuff. Thanks for any good tips.

Congratulations, you are going to love your A36, they are very versatile aircraft.

IMO You will need a good digital engine monitor . . . especially if you are going to run rich of peak.

Digital fuel flow would be a good idea also

After you get those two you can perform a GAMI Lean Test and figure out if you need their injectors or not. http://www.gami.com/gamijectors/leantest.php

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Welcome aboard, Tony!

A couple more things:

• Get thee to a BPPP training session. If you can't do that, go the same website and find a nearby BPPP instructor for some instruction.

• Get thee to an ABS-ASF Service Clinic. If you're not a member, join.

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:D Thanks folks! Sorry it took so long to get back. Broke my leg on a Sea Doo two Sat. ago but will be flying again early Sept. Sure appreciate all the feedback.


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:D Thanks folks! Sorry it took so long to get back. Broke my leg on a Sea Doo two Sat. ago but will be flying again early Sept. Sure appreciate all the feedback.



Sorry to hear about the the fracture Anthony. :sad:

I'm based out of KSOP, 26 minutes as the Bo flies, and would be willing to come down there and help you keep that Bonanza in shape. :D

All kidding aside, welcome to BT, we'll have to meet for for lunch or drinks and tell a few tall tales ;)

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