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Post subject: Re: Aerostars  Posted: Today, 10:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: When you actually speak to Superstar II owners, they love them and don't experience higher maintenance costs or higher failure rates. Yes, they have their known weak spots (cowl flap motors, changing oil filter and the stupid dual magneto), but with PE owning Hartzell/Knisley now, prices for the two turbo models have skyrocketed. Like 3-5x. I used toy be able to overhaul a turbo on my 601P for $1500-2000 when I owned mine, now I hear they're $5K a piece. And it has two. On the Superstar II, any Navajo salvage or repair shop can help you out. Last I looked turbochargers are closer to $10k each now.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: Today, 11:43 |
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Location: Houston, TX
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Username Protected wrote: I have four Aerostars and a couple of Bonanzas so I fly which ever one is most mission specific to me. Aerostar hoarder!! Just kidding… glad to see you’re saving them!
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: Today, 14:32 |
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Location: Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA
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Username Protected wrote: Last I looked turbochargers are closer to $10k each now. Holy moly.  PE ruins everything, but it particularly ruins things in aviation where we can't exercise the free market by going somewhere else. That's why PE loves aviation. Or put it in PE speak, an "inelastic market". Same happened to Turbo Commanders. Windscreens used to be crazy already at $55K/side, PE buys the company and now it's well over $100K/side and rising I hear. Frank, thanks for your POV on the Superstar II.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: Today, 17:00 |
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Aircraft: Aerostars, Debonair
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Username Protected wrote: Yep, it does seem weird that there are so many Aerostar hangar queens… I’ve seen and heard of numerous ones around the country just rotting away. Just last week in Houston I “found” another 601P/700 that apparently hasn’t turned a wheel since 2008. It’s covered with a heavy layer of dust, but at least it has new props!
That one was owned by a guy that killed himself in an L-39 that he had just bought in 2007. I think it has just been sitting there since. The family might not even know they own it!
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: Today, 17:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: Last I looked turbochargers are closer to $10k each now. Holy moly. PE ruins everything, but it particularly ruins things in aviation where we can't exercise the free market by going somewhere else. That's why PE loves aviation. Or put it in PE speak, an "inelastic market". Same happened to Turbo Commanders. Windscreens used to be crazy already at $55K/side, PE buys the company and now it's well over $100K/side and rising I hear. Frank, thanks for your POV on the Superstar II.
Yes, the captive market (us pilots) have no alternative. The rollup of aviation suppliers is following a similar pattern to the pharmaceutical industry
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: Today, 17:41 |
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We do have alternatives. This is why I have been hyping owner produced parts as much as possible in the various forums, for example.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: Today, 17:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: We do have alternatives. This is why I have been hyping owner produced parts as much as possible in the various forums, for example. For some things yes. For other parts it’s impractical.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: Today, 21:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have a verbal offer on my 600 and it is supposed to go under contract sometime between Christmas and New Years, but we all know how that can go.
I'm in the market for a 600 if your deal falls through.
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