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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 09 Oct 2025, 12:24 |
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Joined: 11/06/20 Posts: 1712 Post Likes: +1772 Location: Tulsa, OK - KRVS
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Boggles the mind that someone would seriously consider paying $1.7M for a 441 when they could buy this and fly for years and years for free. To anyone on the fence, step on in, the water's warm. I moved from an SR22 to the 501 and I am so glad I didn't do all the steps in between. This plane is very easy to fly - it can go fast and it can go slow. If you start getting overwhelmed just pull the throttles back. It's also the safest thing you can fly. You're above all but the most ridiculous weather and spend mere minutes in ice. This is not a paid endorsement, I'm merely a happy customer of "Tarver's gently used jets."
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 09 Oct 2025, 21:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: Boggles the mind that someone would seriously consider paying $1.7M for a 441 when they could buy this and fly for years and years for free. To anyone on the fence, step on in, the water's warm. I moved from an SR22 to the 501 and I am so glad I didn't do all the steps in between. This plane is very easy to fly - it can go fast and it can go slow. If you start getting overwhelmed just pull the throttles back. It's also the safest thing you can fly. You're above all but the most ridiculous weather and spend mere minutes in ice. This is not a paid endorsement, I'm merely a happy customer of "Tarver's gently used jets." Chris, do you have any operating or mx costs you can share?
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 08:53 |
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Joined: 05/05/09 Posts: 5281 Post Likes: +5289
Aircraft: C501, R66, A36
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Username Protected wrote: Boggles the mind that someone would seriously consider paying $1.7M for a 441 when they could buy this and fly for years and years for free. To anyone on the fence, step on in, the water's warm. I moved from an SR22 to the 501 and I am so glad I didn't do all the steps in between. This plane is very easy to fly - it can go fast and it can go slow. If you start getting overwhelmed just pull the throttles back. It's also the safest thing you can fly. You're above all but the most ridiculous weather and spend mere minutes in ice. This is not a paid endorsement, I'm merely a happy customer of "Tarver's gently used jets." Chris, do you have any operating or mx costs you can share?
Budget $25K a year for mx; especially on low utilization.
Budget 150 GPH block (It's probably more like 125 GPH on a long trip) so let's call it $600 an hour in gas.
If you figure out the speed/safety/reliability/cheaper Jet A it's not much (or at all) more expensive than a big twin Cessna.
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 14:26 |
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Joined: 03/12/12 Posts: 454 Post Likes: +13 Location: KSEP/KFFZ - Texas/Arizona
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Username Protected wrote: Boggles the mind that someone would seriously consider paying $1.7M for a 441 when they could buy this and fly for years and years for free. To anyone on the fence, step on in, the water's warm. I moved from an SR22 to the 501 and I am so glad I didn't do all the steps in between. This plane is very easy to fly - it can go fast and it can go slow. If you start getting overwhelmed just pull the throttles back. It's also the safest thing you can fly. You're above all but the most ridiculous weather and spend mere minutes in ice. This is not a paid endorsement, I'm merely a happy customer of "Tarver's gently used jets." I'm selling the V35b looking for pressure (and more than one engine)... seriously looking at 421's now but your post has me thinking (possibly dreaming). I have minimal twin time (maybe 50?) and wondering if it is even possible to insure, fly solo even with 50 instructor hours (or more). Can you comment on your transition from the cirrus?
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 14:28 |
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Joined: 11/06/20 Posts: 1712 Post Likes: +1772 Location: Tulsa, OK - KRVS
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Username Protected wrote: Chris, do you have any operating or mx costs you can share? Hi Matthew, I purposely don't keep track as I don't want to know. There is a bunch of info in this thread (just ignore the pre-COVID purchase prices): viewtopic.php?f=49&t=146315Cessna has a factory Low Utilization Maintenance Program (LUMP) that extends the medium and large inspections to 3 and 6 years respectively as long as you stay under 150 hours/year. I also have local maintenance ($110/hr) and he lets me help do menial stuff like pull panels and things.
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 16:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm selling the V35b looking for pressure (and more than one engine)... seriously looking at 421's now but your post has me thinking (possibly dreaming). V-tail Bo to a jet is an unusual transition unless there was some sort of step change in financial situation.
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 16:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm selling the V35b looking for pressure (and more than one engine)... seriously looking at 421's now but your post has me thinking (possibly dreaming). V-tail Bo to a jet is an unusual transition unless there was some sort of step change in financial situation. How does that differ from the (2 post up) sr-22 -> 501 transition?
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 16:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: How does that differ from the (2 post up) sr-22 -> 501 transition? quite a bit actually. Not from a pilotage perspective it doesn't, but from what is going on in the GA ladder it's quite different.
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 20:00 |
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Joined: 07/30/20 Posts: 113 Post Likes: +72 Location: Findlay, Ohio
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I am a low time pilot <500 Total time and just passed my check ride yesterday for a 501. I was able to get insured. I transitioned from a 421C and this is at least 5x’s the airplane the 421 is. While I didn’t buy my plane from Tarver, I would have if the perfect opportunity didn’t strike me 40 miles from my house. Really awesome and fun airplanes! Highly recommend!
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 20:25 |
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Chase this is a dream of mine, ~1000 TT and 300 multi describe your insurance process and requirements if you’d be so kind?
Mike keep these 501s coming one day I hope I’m ready…
My insurance broker bought his 550 from you, let’s hope he’s generous when it’s my turn!
Jacob
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 21:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Chase this is a dream of mine, ~1000 TT and 300 multi describe your insurance process and requirements if you’d be so kind?
Mike keep these 501s coming one day I hope I’m ready…
My insurance broker bought his 550 from you, let’s hope he’s generous when it’s my turn!
Jacob Keep building your business empire and you'll make it happen in no time!
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Post subject: Re: FS: Magnificent Low Time 501 Posted: 10 Oct 2025, 23:09 |
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Joined: 11/06/20 Posts: 1712 Post Likes: +1772 Location: Tulsa, OK - KRVS
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Username Protected wrote: I'm selling the V35b looking for pressure (and more than one engine)... seriously looking at 421's now but your post has me thinking (possibly dreaming). I have minimal twin time (maybe 50?) and wondering if it is even possible to insure, fly solo even with 50 instructor hours (or more). Can you comment on your transition from the cirrus? My only comment on insurance was that back in 2021 I was getting quotes in the $30-45k range so I decided to self-insure (I was 300TT, 8 multi). I flew with a mentor for an entire year (basically took that insurance cost and paid for the mentor - much better use of money IMO) as I knew that I had a lot to learn. I did my initial type as a crew and then went back for recurrent and passed single pilot. I have ~310 hours in the 501 now and I still have very high personal minimums (1,000' ceilings, 4,000' runways, etc.) but I truly believe that I am safer in the 501 than a 421 with 8 people on board in Oklahoma in August.
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