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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Sep 2024, 14:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think Peter is... Yeah, there was some unheeded "that won't work but here is what will" advice along the way- along with a lot of unhelpful stuff, sure.
I am not just talking about anonymous internet advice, which was free and a mix of very helpful to very stupid. Peter hired some competent people from the early stages to the flight test team that walked. He refused to listen to or learn from any of them.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Sep 2024, 16:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think like many, the intent started out fine, but evolved. Physics doesn't care about your intent. Can't believe this still goes on. BD-5 anyone?
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Sep 2024, 17:05 |
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It’s still going on with all the VTOL air taxi concepts.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Sep 2024, 19:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: He didn't start out to be a grifter, but he allowed himself to become one. Only if he didn’t return the money after he knew that he wasn’t going to be able to deliver. His distorted perception might have prolonged that time. Let’s consider too that the “investors” weren’t kept in the dark. If they chose to leave their money in, and/or invest after things were clearly not working out, then they aren’t the first speculators to lose their money.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Sep 2024, 20:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Let’s consider too that the “investors” weren’t kept in the dark. Yyyyyup. Also, the essentials of aerodynamics, engines, and performance aren't exactly dark magic or state secrets, not in this day and age. You don't have to be an expert or really much knowledgeable at all- if you've got investment money to plug into venture capital then surely you're resourceful enough to have old friends and contacts who are more tech minded. Call up an old engineering nerd friend and ask if this is really a good idea. Or if you believe in things like big oil hiding the 100mpg carburetor that runs on water then sure... everyone is free to do what they wish with their money. 
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Sep 2024, 22:17 |
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The thread that never dies…..
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 13 Sep 2024, 22:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: The thread that never dies….. Back in the day it was often pretty entertaining.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Sep 2024, 07:00 |
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I like threads like this, where one person says “this is a stupid idea” and gets assaulted by a half dozen remarks about the Wright Brothers and — if we’re lucky — a quote of the Teddy Roosevelt “Man in the Arena” talk. “Please inform us how many aircraft you’ve designed and built. . . .” 
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 14 Sep 2024, 15:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: What ever became of the "Fly Raptor, fly" fanboy? Didn’t we agree it was “taxi, Raptor, taxi?”
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 15 Sep 2024, 10:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: OMG! The guy with the profile pic taken in the right seat, reversed to make it look like he was in the left? Same guy? That was fantastic! Same guy who claimed he was a naval engineer and yet didn’t know the basic prop thrust equation. He was good for entertainment.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 15 Sep 2024, 19:45 |
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Don’t know about the plane but this sorry has gone 271 pages on BS.
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