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Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2023, 18:32

Username Protected wrote:

Fish and wildlife just announced that they will take the full 130 days they are allowed to review the revised environmental impact statement that now includes the water deluge.

Newsworthy!
Could you post the link for that? I'd like to read but couldn't find it.

Tj

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2023, 19:10

Username Protected wrote:

Fish and wildlife just announced that they will take the full 130 days they are allowed to review the revised environmental impact statement that now includes the water deluge.

Newsworthy!
Could you post the link for that? I'd like to read but couldn't find it.

Tj

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2023, 19:33

Username Protected wrote:

https://gizmodo.com/environmental-revie ... 1850853128

Ah yes I had seen that.
It does say "Could take anywhere from 30 to 135 days".

Pretty confident it ain't gonna be 30 days!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2023, 20:04

Username Protected wrote:

https://gizmodo.com/environmental-revie ... 1850853128

Ah yes I had seen that.
It does say "Could take anywhere from 30 to 135 days".

Pretty confident it ain't gonna be 30 days!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2023, 20:39

Username Protected wrote:

Now I see why NASA can’t get back to the moon. Isn’t there wildlife in Florida where they launch now?

KSC is in the center of the Canaveral National Seashore which is a natural park and home to hundreds if not thousands of species of plants and wildlife. I don’t imagine that an environmental impact survey was run back in the late 60s and early 70s when it came to be.

The current process could be “expedited” if the right people wanted it to be, but that does not seem to be the case.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2023, 20:56

Username Protected wrote:

Fish and wildlife just announced that they will take the full 130 days they are allowed to review the revised environmental impact statement that now includes the water deluge.

That's the kind of stuff that makes my blood boil. Effing Fish and Wildlife is going to hold up arguably the most important project in history of humanity? :pullhair:

Thats why America is losing its edge and is going to be relegated to a second-rate nation status soon. When China decides to send a rocket to Mars, do you think they are going to ask Fish and Wildlife for permission? :crazy:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2023, 22:32

Username Protected wrote:

https://gizmodo.com/environmental-revie ... 1850853128

Ah yes I had seen that.
It does say "Could take anywhere from 30 to 135 days".

Pretty confident it ain't gonna be 30 days!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Sep 2023, 11:26

Username Protected wrote:

When China decides to send a rocket to Mars, do you think they are going to ask Fish and Wildlife for permission? :crazy:

Of course they will. The difference there is that the request will be accompanied by prefilled answer, needing only signature.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2023, 13:50

Still waiting for the fish people.

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2023, 15:51

All that is left is some FWS paperwork and a de-stack / re-stack to arm the FTS.

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2023, 22:10

“Pending regulatory approval”. Fish and Wildlife have stated essentially that they’ll be done when they’re done. IF they find no reason to deny the application, SpaceX can fly… when they’re done.

Could that be in November? Yes, yes it could. It could also be in March.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Nov 2023, 23:14

Username Protected wrote:

“Pending regulatory approval”. Fish and Wildlife have stated essentially that they’ll be done when they’re done. IF they find no reason to deny the application, SpaceX can fly… when they’re done.

Could that be in November? Yes, yes it could. It could also be in March.

Safe bet they’ve got a bit of an inside track. :thumbup:

The activity has been ramping up.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Nov 2023, 11:31

Probably but the crew loyalty investigations may take a while. Bureaucracy finds a way.

Username Protected wrote:

When China decides to send a rocket to Mars, do you think they are going to ask Fish and Wildlife for permission? :crazy:

Of course they will. The difference there is that the request will be accompanied by prefilled answer, needing only signature.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 08 Nov 2023, 23:47

Now targeting a 2 hour 39 minute launch window next Wednesday the 15th opening 1300z.
SpaceX website updated and NOTAMS and various other alerts are in place.

Ramping up!

Tj

Username Protected · **Posted:** 10 Nov 2023, 09:22

FTS has been installed and the final stack has been stacked.
Transport stand has been relocated.

Spacex Starship OFT