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 Post subject: FS: Reduced Price PA46-310 TSIO 550C
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2023, 09:06 
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Placing my 1987 TSIO550C Malibu on the market:

TT 2,400 hrs, flies about 150 hrs a year
2xGI275, GTN 750/650, Flight Stream, installing an EDM830 04/23
Tanis heater, new style pilot side window

Recently overhauled hydraulic pump, 2x new alternators, paint touch-up and ceramic coating (https://www.air-design.co.at/portfolio-item/pa46/).

Specs and pictures available on: https://www.planecheck.com?ent=da&id=55207

Asking 420k EUR / 450k USD. Ping me for digital logs

Trade-in Aerostar 601P/602P or B Duke considered.

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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2023, 09:25 
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Location: Jackson, MS (KHKS)
Aircraft: 1961 Cessna 172
For anyone interested this is a primo engine/airframe combo

Light early airframe
Upgraded engine designed to run lop


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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Thanks Charles,
Indeed, 14.5 gal LoP giving 190 TAS at FL210

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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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Full details available on: https://www.planecheck.com?ent=da&id=55207

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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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Aircraft: 1987 F33A
I would agree with the comments about the engine/airframe. I owned this model for 1,500 hours with the 2 blade (more efficient) propeller. It routinely flew at 223 KTAS at FL250 on about 22 gallons per hour. With the outboard STC fuel caps it is a 6 hour, 1300 nm no wind plane. It is my first choice of the PA 46 piston family.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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what would price be in us dollars?


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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Not to be redundant but totally agree with the previous comments. This is a great airframe engine combination. I have just under 1400 lbs useful and flight plan at 15.5 gph for 195 knots at FL210. Even with standard fuel that’s 5.5 hours of cruise with a one hour reserve after the climb to altitude. It’s just an amazingly efficient airplane


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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what would price be in us dollars?


480k US - looking for a B58P (ideally) or (if need be) C340A / C414 and trade-in possible

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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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I will never understand why anyone buys a turbo cirrus over this plane. Loved my Malibu. Everyone forgets the original Malibu POH forbade ROP operations. The entire airframe was designed around LOP ops. So ahead of its time.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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For US buyers, I have an Europe based PA46 agent who can manage the FAA registration, prebuy and ferry services as needed.

Ping me for detailed logs.

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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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I think a 58P might be a disappointment after flying this plane (until an engine failure of course).

58P will be more fuel burn, fly maybe a few knots faster but not a lot, probably have less UL, and be a lot more expensive to overhaul when the time comes (and OH is much sooner on the 58P TSIO520).

No offense, but it seems like you’ve got a perfect plane now, especially when you’re paying what? 11€/gallon?

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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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I'd really like to have this plane but don't see how I can sell my 36 with a soon-to-be grounded 550.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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I will never understand why anyone buys a turbo cirrus over this plane. Loved my Malibu. Everyone forgets the original Malibu POH forbade ROP operations. The entire airframe was designed around LOP ops. So ahead of its time.


I did because of the extra security of the chute, which gives me a chance at surviving if I lose an engine over terrain / at night. Would be amazing to have pressurization though, but not sure its worth the trade off of not having the chute when single engine in heavy IMC/at night/over terrain


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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I did because of the extra security of the chute, which gives me a chance at surviving if I lose an engine over terrain / at night. Would be amazing to have pressurization though, but not sure its worth the trade off of not having the chute when single engine in heavy IMC/at night/over terrain

My understanding was that with the efficient Malibu wing operating in the flight levels you should generally have a lot of options to make a runway if the engine quits. Obviously easier said than done in bad conditions but I'm not sure I'd want to pull a chute over the Rockies in February either.


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 Post subject: Re: FS: PA46-310 TSIO 550C - Trade-in B58P considered
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I personally would prefer an engine failure in a Malibu up high to a chute event in almost all cases. Flying a PA46 is done with a different profile, up high on almost all flights vs. low teens in a Cirrus. I hate having to use O2 (which I have to when taking the DA42) and I always feel tired no matter what. In the PA46, cabin altitude is below 5k even when flying in FL210 and above.

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