BeechTalk - BT - Merlin IIIA purchase and prebuy questions

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2022, 00:46

Username Protected wrote:

Not sure I follow your point either. Do you want me to buy a Citation instead, or downgrade to what? (Since I am aiming to high) I have been looking at Garret powered Turboprops for several years. The 421 is likely sold so we need a replacement. At times we will fly to NWT/Yukon for business and so the Merlin with it's insane range seems to fit our bill. There is also an excellent knowledge base for the Merlin's in Canada as opposed to the MU2.

Mike and I have corresponded several times over the years regarding MU2's that I looked at and I highly value his opinion.

Mark Hangen made his disdain known for me on these forums years ago when I defended Mike C in a post where he berated Mike as the village idiot, so that sandbox is off limit.

Hilgard

I sold a nice 340 RAM VII to a good friend ( who happened to start a very successful airline) he’s avoiding the Nav Canada fees like the plague, that you pay with the type of turboprop your looking at.

We flew it to Whitehorse recently, fits the mission, expensive enough.
He does have passes still on the airlines, thus slants his mission.

Your putting out estimates for $$$ on engine SB’s, have you considered how much Nav Canada is going to have it’s hands in your pocket?

If so, and your “good” with that …… I’m available to be adopted!

Murray

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2022, 00:51

Username Protected wrote:

Not sure I follow your point either. Do you want me to buy a Citation instead, or downgrade to what? (Since I am aiming to high) I have been looking at Garret powered Turboprops for several years. The 421 is likely sold so we need a replacement. At times we will fly to NWT/Yukon for business and so the Merlin with it's insane range seems to fit our bill. There is also an excellent knowledge base for the Merlin's in Canada as opposed to the MU2.

Mike and I have corresponded several times over the years regarding MU2's that I looked at and I highly value his opinion.

Mark Hangen made his disdain known for me on these forums years ago when I defended Mike C in a post where he berated Mike as the village idiot, so that sandbox is off limit.

Hilgard

I sold a nice 340 RAM VII to a good friend ( who happened to start a very successful airline) he’s avoiding the Nav Canada fees like the plague, that you pay with the type of turboprop your looking at.

We flew it to Whitehorse recently, fits the mission, expensive enough.
He does have passes still on the airlines, thus slants his mission.

Your putting out estimates for $$$ on engine SB’s, have you considered how much Nav Canada is going to have it’s hands in your pocket?

If so, and your “good” with that …… I’m available to be adopted!

Murray

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2022, 01:23

Username Protected wrote:

… The SB is a CAT 1 safety item, it seems many part 91 operators don't comply, however when hot section comes they are hooked.

Are you planning to operate part 135 (or it’s Canadian equivalent), or are SBs mandatory in Canada in a way they are not in the US? What is making you treat those SBs as mandatory compared to others who clearly are not?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2022, 02:00

Hilgard - whatever plane you choose, I just want you too know you have the most badass movie villain, or movie hero - take your pick - name ever. It's epic! Come to Hollywood! :thumbup:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2022, 18:05

Username Protected wrote:

… The SB is a CAT 1 safety item, it seems many part 91 operators don't comply, however when hot section comes they are hooked.

Are you planning to operate part 135 (or it’s Canadian equivalent), or are SBs mandatory in Canada in a way they are not in the US? What is making you treat those SBs as mandatory compared to others who clearly are not?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2022, 18:08

Username Protected wrote:

Hilgard - whatever plane you choose, I just want you too know you have the most badass movie villain, or movie hero - take your pick - name ever. It's epic! Come to Hollywood! :thumbup:

Adam

I briefly tried finding this actor, no luck. Guess like me he is not really famous. :lol:

Hilgard

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Feb 2022, 19:30

Username Protected wrote:

We are looking at all the options, I completely get it that SB's are not mandatory in the US for part 91. However when an engine is on a GMP I would expect that is would be done.

Completely get that Canada may have different rules, I am mostly expressing my ignorance of such.

And to your point about being on an engine program... Fundamentally I don't think engine programs have much to do with engineering or safety, they have everything to do with creating a steady revenue stream for the program company. So... I suspect that if they have any legal way to get out of SBs that cost $100k+, they will do so. :doh: