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Post subject: Re: What is the fastest/fuel-efficient airplane, supports UL Posted: 10 Jan 2022, 16:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Here?
Edit: there and the spots to the west/south in front of the building. Circled in blue. I think the spots northeast of the run-up box are transient (circled in yellow) but may be wrong.
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Post subject: Re: What is the fastest/fuel-efficient airplane, supports UL Posted: 10 Jan 2022, 20:16 |
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Joined: 08/05/16 Posts: 3137 Post Likes: +2282 Company: Tack Mobile Location: KBJC
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Username Protected wrote: Here?
Edit: there and the spots to the west/south in front of the building. Circled in blue. I think the spots northeast of the run-up box are transient (circled in yellow) but may be wrong.
This is the diagram from their website, which seems to be wrong unless they want people parking in the runup area. Also I think they have the management office in the wrong spot.
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Post subject: Re: What is the fastest/fuel-efficient airplane, supports UL Posted: 10 Jan 2022, 22:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: Check out the Risen aircraft from Italy. 200 knots true at 10,000ft burning 6.8 GPH with a Rotax 914 turbo. The 915 iS powered Risen is even faster.
There are two currently flying in the US. My dream airplane would be the Blackwing 915. Interesting, thanks! I hadn't heard of either. Are either certified or planned to be certified in the US? Edit: ah I see from another post that they may be LSA. I should have said in the first post - IFR is a requirement to have reasonable dispatch reliability. Both ends, KPAO and KSMO, are often fogged. These new designs are really cool and would appeal to the tech-focused other members of the partnership. The concern would be support and resale value. That may be the tradeoff between one of these and a Deb.
These aren’t LSA’s but rather light Ferrari‘s of the aviation world. You’d have to purchase them as Experimental Exhibition but they are pretty incredible.
This one will do 180 knots true at 7.8 GPH up at altitude. https://youtu.be/3opHsGsI1j0
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Post subject: Re: What is the fastest/fuel-efficient airplane, supports UL Posted: 10 Jan 2022, 23:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: the piper Dakota I think has the 260 hp lycoming Negative. The Piper Dakota has a 235hp Lycoming O-540 J3A5D with an 8.5:1 compression requiring 100octane. As I write this, I wonder if perhaps you meant the Cherokee 235 which has a 7.2:1 compression ratio in the -B4B5 variant. This engine can use even mogas.
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Post subject: Re: What is the fastest/fuel-efficient airplane, supports UL Posted: 12 Jan 2022, 14:38 |
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Pipistrel Panthera, Lycoming IO540V-V4A5, avgas or mogas. Just a sliver under 200 knots at 13 gal/hr. Just sat in one recently. Loved it. Seats so comfortable I might need a jab every 15 minutes so I don’t snooze.
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Post subject: Re: What is the fastest/fuel-efficient airplane, supports UL Posted: 13 Jan 2022, 00:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: These aren’t LSA’s but rather light Ferrari‘s of the aviation world. You’d have to purchase them as Experimental Exhibition but they are pretty incredible I've been following these for a while but the Exp/Exhibition limitations are a deal killer. However, several of these European hotrods, including the VL3, advertise on their websites a factory build program similar to that of CubCrafters here in the US: you build 51% of your plane at their factory, with their workers (and a translator), then ship it to the US where it registers as Exp/Amateur Built, with the same freedoms as any other homebuilt. To me, that seems like the way to go but I don't know if any US buyers/builders have actually done this or if it's just theoretical.
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Post subject: Re: What is the fastest/fuel-efficient airplane, supports UL Posted: 13 Jan 2022, 13:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: These aren’t LSA’s but rather light Ferrari‘s of the aviation world. You’d have to purchase them as Experimental Exhibition but they are pretty incredible I've been following these for a while but the Exp/Exhibition limitations are a deal killer. However, several of these European hotrods, including the VL3, advertise on their websites a factory build program similar to that of CubCrafters here in the US: you build 51% of your plane at their factory, with their workers (and a translator), then ship it to the US where it registers as Exp/Amateur Built, with the same freedoms as any other homebuilt. To me, that seems like the way to go but I don't know if any US buyers/builders have actually done this or if it's just theoretical.
There are a couple that have gone to Italy and done that for the Risen. One is 914 powered in Wyoming and the other a 915 in New York. I do think that would be the way to go about it!
I think there are about five 915 VL3’s in the US now under Exhibition.
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