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I sent in my deposit and was told I have position 134.

My wife told me I needed another project now that the Flagstaff house is done...


Richard, 134 is a good number. By the time number 134 rolls off the assembly line the kinks should be worked out.

I'd much rather be 134 than in the top 10.

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Richard, 134 is a good number. By the time number 134 rolls off the assembly line the kinks should be worked out.

I'd much rather be 134 than in the top 10.


That was my thought. It's probably ~36ish months until I see anything at the earliest. It's a project, they're going to be kinks. I'm hoping by then they will support the turbo engine, and maybe have a de-ice solution, just because of overall conditions at Flagstaff. But it's only $1000 for a deposit. If it turns to vaporware, I've lost more money doing dumber stuff...


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I think you're making my point. If I told SWMBO we were flying to Chicago for a weekend (round it to 650nm for us) but she could only bring one change of clothes, she would tell me to enjoy myself. This is not a "two people plugs bags" plane, this is a "two people and one small bag" plane, and that has fewer potential buyers. It doesn't look like it will hold as much as an RV-7.


The picture makes the luggage space look really small. Check out the video and you'll see it is a bit more space. I think it's still a bit small on volume, but plenty by weight, at least for a two seater.

Looks like it might be a neat "second" plane for me, but not my only one. I do Angel Flight missions, plus sometimes need four seats for people, dogs (my daughter's) or stuff.

A zippy two seater might be night for weekend trips for my wife and I and the occasional $100 Hamburger run.

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Interesting back story. I wish them the best.

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I think you're making my point. If I told SWMBO we were flying to Chicago for a weekend (round it to 650nm for us) but she could only bring one change of clothes, she would tell me to enjoy myself. This is not a "two people plugs bags" plane, this is a "two people and one small bag" plane, and that has fewer potential buyers. It doesn't look like it will hold as much as an RV-7.

Well, then apparently I married better than you. Mine doesn't need to change clothes several time a day to look (and feel) good :)
But I agree, that limits market for the airplane.

My wife usually packs a lot lighter than I do although it seems like she always ends up putting some of her stuff in my bag.
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The June update just came out; they've successfully run the engine for the first time, and also weighed the prototype to get an idea of actual empty weight. The prototype came in at 780lbs including a number of fixtures specific to the test airframe, and they apparently have a plan to shed the remaining 30lbs to hit the original target of 750lbs.

I'm impressed how close they are to target!


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The June update just came out; they've successfully run the engine for the first time, and also weighed the prototype to get an idea of actual empty weight. The prototype came in at 780lbs including a number of fixtures specific to the test airframe, and they apparently have a plan to shed the remaining 30lbs to hit the original target of 750lbs.

I'm impressed how close they are to target!

That's the difference between design/engineer then build vs build then cobble (ala Peter M).

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That's the difference between design/engineer then build vs build then cobble (ala Peter M).

Awww, I miss Peter. It's like a favorite SitCom ended. You knew it wasn't going to work, but every week it brought another episode of light hearted, overly optimistic, entertainment.

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That's the difference between design/engineer then build vs build then cobble (ala Peter M).

Awww, I miss Peter. It's like a favorite SitCom ended. You knew it wasn't going to work, but every week it brought another episode of light hearted, overly optimistic, entertainment.


I still think there was a missed opportunity for a reality TV show. No fake drama needed! The finale would be him landing in a corn field, with the text at the end saying "Peter is now seeking funding for his next project, the Raptor 2... He continues to believe he will be successful... So far, there has been no progress on this new aircraft... <credits>"

They could interview all of the people Peter refused to listen to, and some other people. I can imagine an interview with the Velocity folks with some zingers "We designed that airplane already, except in our case, we used the laws of physics as a guideline."

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