Still waiting to hear from someone who owns and flies a Vision Jet. A couple Vision Jets fly from my home airfield: Hillsboro, OR. One owner frequently flies Angel Flights in his. Operating expenses should be lower than a twin jet, range is similar to high performance piston singles e.g. Malibu, and to those old rope-start Citations. That seems sufficient for most owner-flown private jets. I bet they are fun to fly!

Even without any unhelpful and emotionally triggering argument for the parachute, it seems like a nice airplane that fits a niche nicely. Good for Cirrus bringing the airplane to market and selling a ton of them.

I am 100% for all airplane development and innovation, including the Cirrus Jet.

Because of that I hesitate to ask, but must...

Isn't it pretty loud in the cabin? Especially for the passengers? How does it compare to say a legacy Cessna Citation? Newer CJ? Anybody know

'Those old rope start citations' is one of the best lines I have heard in a while.

I didn't realize the CAPS system was parachute by wire. I wonder if it has logic to say 'thanks for pulling the handle, but from the computer eye view, we can land this thing' and it doesn't blow the chute but engages autoland.

I really hope an operator chimes in. The BT peanut gallery's distaste is well documented, however, they are selling a lot of them!

Just downloaded this POH - I am not sure you could have made more complicated performance charts. Not sure why, but older planes have much more useful charts for performance.

They show a specific range of nm/10 gal for some reason.

If there is a range chart in their, I could not find it. I am just going to download FF profile and play around with it.

Runway requirements were not as terrible as I expected. Fuel burn higher than I thought. Speed drop off when you pull the power at all is significant.

Regarding cabin noise.

This story was told to me by someone that was there.

When testing, the FAA representative flying in the Vision Jet was so overcome by the cabin noise she went to the hospital after after flight. She then took a medical leave of absence for traumatic reasons. Kinda something along the lines of PTSD.

My source tells me his company was immediately charged with designed an acoustic system to reduce noise.

Apparently the inlet 'whine' from air entering the engine was unbearable.

So, I guess the answer to Anthony’s question is “no”…

Why would any owner devalue their asset by describing its faults on a forum?

Mike C.

That niche is SR22 owners who fancy a jet that goes slow, low, and short, and mistakenly believe one engine is simpler.

Mike C.

Which begs the question of what happens if the wire isn't working.

No SF-50 chute deploys to date.

The first one will be VERY interesting.

It may be several years before it happens. Why? Better trained pilots due to type rating and 61.58 recurrency.

It isn't clear the SF-50 chute will ever save a life. It is hard to find any jet accident where a chute makes a difference.

Mike C.

That niche is SR22 owners who fancy a jet that goes slow, low, and short, and mistakenly believe one engine is simpler.

Mike C.

That’s a good one, Mark….

“A source told me….” ….a noisy flight caused PTSD? You serious?

A typical SF50 flight is 600-800 NM, in 2.5 hours, at FL310. Not slow, not low, and not short.

Here's one of several flying today, this one from Key West to Atlanta:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N19 ... /KEYW/KPDK

Another one from Colorado to Texas:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N25 ... /KEGE/KGGG

My friend uses his to go from South Florida to New Jersey on a regular basis. It's also economical enough to go from Fort Lauderdale to Key West without breaking the bank. There isn't any other jet that versatile, at that price point. And not 40 years old either.

Which begs the question of what happens if the wire isn't working.

No SF-50 chute deploys to date.

The first one will be VERY interesting.

It may be several years before it happens. Why? Better trained pilots due to type rating and 61.58 recurrency.

It isn't clear the SF-50 chute will ever save a life. It is hard to find any jet accident where a chute makes a difference.

Mike C.

I hope they depreciate like crazy, so I can buy one someday.

It's a jet. That fits in my hangar.

I know several fighter pilots who would beg to differ

Sorry, but your response does not fit the narrative...