The MU2 is more reliable and burns a lot less fuel.

Still in the early stages of getting the V properly debugged, so it isn't quite fair to compare a plane I've had for 13 years with one I just got. My last achievement was getting the Freon AC fixed last weekend. Still got a fair list of minor things to work on. Getting things all setup with fixing things, maintenance, paperwork, etc, has been a lot of work.

The V is pretty easy to fly. I'm right in the zone where I think I know how to fly it, but probably don't. I am starting to fly it single pilot, the SIC mentor is now doing nothing. That's quite a shift to get used to and a lot of work for me now, which will abate when I get more used to things.

Mike C.

Close on my V Tuesday. It goes in for full Jet Tech panel in August. Took the commercial written this morning. Check ride coming up. Then SPE for the V. Beast of an airplane. Feels much bigger than the 501sp. These legacy Citations are being recognized for the exceptional value they offer. I think they are solid hedge against inflation too. Thanks to Chip for all the amazing work. He’s the best.

I've just been through all this process if you want any advice. A major question is the G600 STC timing and what you want to do about that.

Before:

After:

Getting rid of the pedestal made a HUGE difference in cockpit comfort. I was worried it wouldn't be as good as my MU2 due to pedestal and floor control column. Turns out, not a problem with the pedestal removed and the column hasn't been an issue.

The shop took out 500 lbs of stuff and put back 120 lbs for a net weight savings of 380 lbs. The end result is not quite that good due to needing some nose ballast, but it helps. The plane is almost as light as an S550 now.

I've been to mach 0.75 and 425 KTAS in cruise at FL410. It really moves.

We should form the Garminized legacy Citation support group. It really revitalizes the plane.

Mike C.

Cessna no longer maintains an active SPE. The original one, 4050, is from 1984. Textron's last SPE timed out in 2012.

It should be noted that Textron owns Flightsafety and they maintain an SPE.


Don't need Textron involved to do this.

Textron can't be against it since that would alienate customers, so they will be at least quiet if not actively support it.


The SPE applies to 500 and 560 alike, no difference, so this wouldn't be any different.


Same as the 500, 550, S550.

Mike C.

I've just been through all this process if you want any advice. A major question is the G600 STC timing and what you want to do about that.

Before:

After:

Getting rid of the pedestal made a HUGE difference in cockpit comfort. I was worried it wouldn't be as good as my MU2 due to pedestal and floor control column. Turns out, not a problem with the pedestal removed and the column hasn't been an issue.

The shop took out 500 lbs of stuff and put back 120 lbs for a net weight savings of 380 lbs. The end result is not quite that good due to needing some nose ballast, but it helps. The plane is almost as light as an S550 now.

I've been to mach 0.75 and 425 KTAS in cruise at FL410. It really moves.

We should form the Garminized legacy Citation support group. It really revitalizes the plane.

Mike C.

600lbs a side usually

I've just been through all this process if you want any advice. A major question is the G600 STC timing and what you want to do about that.

Before:

After:

Getting rid of the pedestal made a HUGE difference in cockpit comfort. I was worried it wouldn't be as good as my MU2 due to pedestal and floor control column. Turns out, not a problem with the pedestal removed and the column hasn't been an issue.

The shop took out 500 lbs of stuff and put back 120 lbs for a net weight savings of 380 lbs. The end result is not quite that good due to needing some nose ballast, but it helps. The plane is almost as light as an S550 now.

I've been to mach 0.75 and 425 KTAS in cruise at FL410. It really moves.

We should form the Garminized legacy Citation support group. It really revitalizes the plane.

Mike C.

James Crossno ,
I’m flying Jet Techs 550 demo & STC plane for the GTN 750 & TXI 700. No problems great installation .

Impressive!

I've just been through all this process if you want any advice. A major question is the G600 STC timing and what you want to do about that.

Before:

After:

Getting rid of the pedestal made a HUGE difference in cockpit comfort. I was worried it wouldn't be as good as my MU2 due to pedestal and floor control column. Turns out, not a problem with the pedestal removed and the column hasn't been an issue.

The shop took out 500 lbs of stuff and put back 120 lbs for a net weight savings of 380 lbs. The end result is not quite that good due to needing some nose ballast, but it helps. The plane is almost as light as an S550 now.

I've been to mach 0.75 and 425 KTAS in cruise at FL410. It really moves.

We should form the Garminized legacy Citation support group. It really revitalizes the plane.

Mike C.

Under GPS 1 and 2.

Now every thread will eventually be about the Ultra. In the past every thread ended up about the MU2. LOL.


Just teasing Mike C. Haha

Mike

Depends on weight and temps.

We were about ISA and 12,500 lbs, 104% N1, 1087 pph (162 GPH) total per manual, 410 KTAS. We were definitely doing more speed than that, though. We were fairly light.

Mike C.

Under GPS 1 and 2.