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					| The pilot seats recline so they can take a nap!  They must have had some former Northwest pilots working on the design team.
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					| Username Protected wrote: The pilot seats recline so they can take a nap!  They must have had some former Northwest pilots working on the design team.
 I still enjoy the comfort and styling of the G-V from back in the day.
 It's not uncommon for pilots with European airlines to nap in the pilot seat. That's probably a heck of a lot better than two people trying to stay awake.
 
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					| Username Protected wrote: The pilot seats recline so they can take a nap!  They must have had some former Northwest pilots working on the design team.
 I still enjoy the comfort and styling of the G-V from back in the day.
 It's not uncommon for pilots with European airlines to nap in the pilot seat. That's probably a heck of a lot better than two people trying to stay awake.So, one sleeping and one trying to stay awake is better than two trying to stay awake? Does that make two sleeping (one intentionally and one unintentionally) the best of all?
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					|  Post subject: Re: Falcon 10X  Posted:  08 May 2021, 09:27  |  |  
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					| Username Protected wrote: It's not uncommon for pilots with European airlines to nap in the pilot seat. That's probably a heck of a lot better than two people trying to stay awake.
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					| Username Protected wrote: It's not uncommon for pilots with European airlines to nap in the pilot seat. That's probably a heck of a lot better than two people trying to stay awake.
 Controlled rest makes such a difference when it comes to fatigue and alertness!That’s what I keep telling my kids. But they don’t listen to me!
 
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					|  Post subject: Re: Falcon 10X  Posted:  08 May 2021, 09:39  |  |  
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					| The single throttle is a pretty big deal, they are also trying to certify it on the 7/8X. We are getting a demo at the end of the month on the 8X, wonder if this is not going to stall that potential purchase   _________________
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					|  Post subject: Re: Falcon 10X  Posted:  08 May 2021, 09:49  |  |  
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					| Username Protected wrote: With [only] one smart power lever controlling both engines! Dassault has a really low opinion of pilots since they expect they can't handle two power levers. So how do you generate purposeful asymmetric thrust?  Say a bird strike damages the left wing and you need to use asymmetric thrust in addition to rudder? Mike C._________________
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					|  Post subject: Re: Falcon 10X  Posted:  08 May 2021, 10:10  |  |  
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					| Frankly  I was stunned by the project, I was expecting a smaller version of the 6X like a 3X. The CL605 is dated even with new CL650, Citation/Textron, I really do not know what they manufacture within that segment anymore though the classics have my sweet spot and Falcon 900 is on life support... It seems that Embrear might be targeting that market efficiently.  
 I think that the 10X is aimed to slow down the GLEX7500 sales but for the life of me, to me the segment of ULR +7000NM is limited (G700/GLEX7500), so third model? How many can you sell, not to mention 2025 delivery.
 
 As for the single throttle, EASA or FAA will not have certification without some sort of split throttle control. I will try to get some detailed information.
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					|  Post subject: Re: Falcon 10X  Posted:  08 May 2021, 11:28  |  |  
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					| Username Protected wrote: With [only] one smart power lever controlling both engines! Dassault has a really low opinion of pilots since they expect they can't handle two power levers. So how do you generate purposeful asymmetric thrust?  Say a bird strike damages the left wing and you need to use asymmetric thrust in addition to rudder? Mike C.
 Since it's a fly by wire, I am sure that they can do this via software. Small button on the bottom of the lever for exemple. Not that complicated to accomplish.
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					|  Post subject: Re: Falcon 10X  Posted:  08 May 2021, 12:01  |  |  
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					| Not sure the judgement on the single throttle is fair, I think we can assume their engineering team spent more than a few minutes figuring this out. 
 It’ll never be certified, dammit, why didn’t anyone bring this up in 2017 when we started this project?! Green.
 
 
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					| Username Protected wrote: With [only] one smart  power lever controlling both engines!https://youtu.be/beIkJmWmNT8#t=19m12sOh HELL no. I’m clearly too old._________________
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					| Username Protected wrote: With [only] one smart  power lever controlling both engines!https://youtu.be/beIkJmWmNT8#t=19m12sA true example of that French design axiom, "L'élégance résulte d'une simplicité raffinée" ("Elegance results from refined simplicity")._________________
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