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Post subject: Re: PC12-41 Posted: 25 Jan 2021, 22:17 |
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Personal opinion but I can’t stand flying them. They handle like @#$t. The early ailerons sucked. It’s still a pc-12 but hand flying them really is not pleasurable.
_________________ ATP, CFII, MEI, Commercial Rotor/SES, A&P. I like to fly things, sometimes I fix them.
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Post subject: Re: PC12-41 Posted: 25 Jan 2021, 22:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: ...hand flying them really is not pleasurable. Have you flown a Twin Cessna?
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Post subject: Re: PC12-41 Posted: 26 Jan 2021, 14:00 |
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Joined: 01/25/15 Posts: 201 Post Likes: +192
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Username Protected wrote: Curious for all you PC12 folks, would you ever buy a -41? Other than the lower useful load, what else is a negative compared to a -45? Is it fair to say that these hold their value far less than other models unless the upgrade is completed? Are there any -41s flying? If I remember correctly, making them a -45 is just a paperwork exercise.
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Post subject: Re: PC12-41 Posted: 26 Jan 2021, 14:02 |
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Joined: 02/17/14 Posts: 142 Post Likes: +50 Location: Chicago, IL
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Username Protected wrote: Curious for all you PC12 folks, would you ever buy a -41? Other than the lower useful load, what else is a negative compared to a -45? Is it fair to say that these hold their value far less than other models unless the upgrade is completed? Are there any -41s flying? If I remember correctly, making them a -45 is just a paperwork exercise.
Well, I know at least one. I've been told it's about 150-180k to convert.
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Post subject: Re: PC12-41 Posted: 26 Jan 2021, 14:49 |
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Joined: 01/25/15 Posts: 201 Post Likes: +192
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Username Protected wrote:
Well, I know at least one. I've been told it's about 150-180k to convert.
Quite the unicorn then. They did not make many to start with (they only built them for 2 years), and every one I've seen has since been converted. It's the same plane as /45, just a service bulletin to complete. The converted planes still have the /41 weights in the AOM, its just an appendix for the new performance charts. Some people complain about the non-Flettner ailerons. I don't mind them, but that's a personal preference. You need a /47 to get the tabs.
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Post subject: Re: PC12-41 Posted: 26 Jan 2021, 15:19 |
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Joined: 02/17/14 Posts: 142 Post Likes: +50 Location: Chicago, IL
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Username Protected wrote:
Well, I know at least one. I've been told it's about 150-180k to convert.
Quite the unicorn then. They did not make many to start with (they only built them for 2 years), and every one I've seen has since been converted. It's the same plane as /45, just a service bulletin to complete. The converted planes still have the /41 weights in the AOM, its just an appendix for the new performance charts. Some people complain about the non-Flettner ailerons. I don't mind them, but that's a personal preference. You need a /47 to get the tabs.
So what work is needed to actually convert the plane- I've seen numbers like 180k tossed around to complete this. Once completed, does a converted 41 carry the same value as a 45?
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