Don't forget how each application is flat rated (thermodynamic vs shaft horsepower).

An M600 at 28,000' will probably burn 40ish gph still making most of its power. A -67 (or -66) variant will burn ~60 gph making 700-800 hp in the same setting. Not quite 2x.


Some other data points to the big block PT6 cost comments: There are also stories of big blocks with painless (30k) hot sections and first run overhauls in the ~$350k range (at a name brand shop). Not all end up being nightmares.

With the amount of Pilatus' out there, I wish Pratt had the the -67 variants on a flat rate OH structure like the -42s and others.

Are the -42A's on a flat rate OH program? I only know of them in the Meridian. Most of the -42's are on King Air's.

Regarding piddle packs - they sell them at every 7-11. Gallon zip loc bag, insert diaper. Rip lining out of diaper if you're feeling industrious.

Mike, yes and no. Depends once again where you get the work done. Just like the engines on the Mitts, their are great places for overhaul and great places for getting shafted.

Convington did my HSI and it cost me 6.5k. Most of the overhauls are in the 250-350k range. Now if you take it to Dallas Airmotive and throw them the keys, things may be different.

PC12's relative to other currently produced aircraft are a very good buy. They do a lot of things very, very well. Can they run as cheap as an M600, I'm not sure, but you sure as hell are not carrying 4 surfboards and 10 people in an M600 1700NM with a fully enclosed lav.......

with a push to talk I may add

Mike, yes and no. Depends once again where you get the work done. Just like the engines on the Mitts, their are great places for overhaul and great places for getting shafted.

Convington did my HSI and it cost me 6.5k. Most of the overhauls are in the 250-350k range. Now if you take it to Dallas Airmotive and throw them the keys, things may be different.

PC12's relative to other currently produced aircraft are a very good buy. They do a lot of things very, very well. Can they run as cheap as an M600, I'm not sure, but you sure as hell are not carrying 4 surfboards and 10 people in an M600 1700NM with a fully enclosed lav.......

with a push to talk I may add

Alright Penman, you have to post a picture of 10 humans in a pc12 with 4 surfboards. You either surf much shorter boards than me or you have some racks on the wings

Slight thread drift, but despite the piaggio speed, it is not a great plane for hauling gear. Mountain bikes and skis are much much easier to cram in the back of a PC12. When I am old and have nothing to do but fly (which means I won't mind going slow:-), I will get a PC12 to cart my bikes and boards around in ;-0.

PC12's relative to other currently produced aircraft are a very good buy. They do a lot of things very, very well. Can they run as cheap as an M600, I'm not sure, but you sure as hell are not carrying 4 surfboards and 10 people in an M600 1700NM with a fully enclosed lav.......

with a push to talk I may add

It’s an old Crandall era joke.

PC12 guys always like to tell you how much better their airplane is...until the Avanti enters the conversation . The Avanti is the top of the heap for turboprops if you can wrap your head around two engines.

The Garrett guys beat the efficiency drum until nothing else can be heard. It’s a hypnotic, soothing and drowning sound. If you worship at that alter you’re going to stay there.

There’s no definite or one-size-fits all answer to this sort of question. It’s also why airplanes of all types and manners exist in the market. While the turboprop is a refreshingly predictable beast, bad news comes in a wide variety of clothing and breaks all the best laid spreadsheets when she comes through the door and throws a fit of rage.

Ah ha,, Thanks Tyler, I get it now,, I'd forgotten all about the Crandell influence

Alright Penman, you have to post a picture of 10 humans in a pc12 with 4 surfboards. You either surf much shorter boards than me or you have some racks on the wings

Despite not agreeing on absolutely anything with Jason, do congratulate him on his upgrade from me!

He's can be a schmuck online in forums......in real life, great dude.....why this is....beats me.......he's flying fast and high at the moment.

Most of his recent posts on CJP are about how to service the lav in his CJ4.

Ah, the luxurious life of a jet owner.

CJP = Citation Jet Pilots, a for pay forum for Citation owners.

Mike C.

Most of his recent posts on CJP are about how to service the lav in his CJ4.

Ah, the luxurious life of a jet owner.

CJP = Citation Jet Pilots, a for pay forum for Citation owners.

Mike C.

Most of his recent posts on CJP are about how to service the lav in his CJ4.

Ah, the luxurious life of a jet owner.
C.