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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die  Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 17:57 |
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 18:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: So with the gear up, did he gain 75-100 knots and see his temps plummet? From looking at Flightaware, it was one very short loop around the pattern. Not enough time to accelerate or heat up.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 21:40 |
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So we've got a guy with a plane that has some stability issues. He thinks he addressed it by covering up the gear wells. Then he uncovers them, goes up and retracts the gear for the very first time at (what I'm guessing is) a rather low altitude.  Personally, I think in that situation I would have gotten some altitude in case retracting the gear created a... surprise.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 21:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Personally, I think in that situation I would have gotten some altitude in case retracting the gear created a... surprise. He can’t get some altitude because he does not seem to have much climb performance, and certainly not enough cooling capacity.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 22:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: So we've got a guy with a plane that has some stability issues. He thinks he addressed it by covering up the gear wells. Then he uncovers them, goes up and retracts the gear for the very first time at (what I'm guessing is) a rather low altitude. Personally, I think in that situation I would have gotten some altitude in case retracting the gear created a... surprise. I think he’s come to the conclusion that the instability was due to an excessively aft CG which was causing random stalling of the canard and possibly sections of the wings, which BTW is probably correct. He “fixed” that with the heavy crap he put in the nose. Yes it would be wise to get some altitude before experimenting with configuration changes, but let’s remember where we are.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 22:40 |
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If he keeps that speed all the way to the numbers he is going to need better brakes! He had 143 IAS on the downwind. He just dropped an updated video. He was 107 over the numbers and a little porpoising between 98 and landing at 85. https://youtu.be/E6W72Qk5tto
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 11 Dec 2020, 23:59 |
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I sent that screenshot to Elliot and he just said, "Yeah." lol. I can't imagine how it feel for him to sit back and watch
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 04:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Looks like he was hauling arse (relatively) on downwind That's approaching piper arrow speed !
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 09:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think he’s come to the conclusion that the instability was due to an excessively aft CG which was causing random stalling of the canard and possibly sections of the wings, which BTW is probably correct. He “fixed” that with the heavy crap he put in the nose. Nope. It's actually the opposite. If you put more weight on the canard, the speed that it will stall is higher. On my plane with just me and half tanks, I've had the canard stall speed close to 60kts. Two people with half tanks and it's about 66kts. I have no idea how he "fixed" his stability issue. I think there's a chance it may have been PIO.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 10:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes it would be wise to get some altitude before experimenting with configuration changes, but let’s remember where we are. Perhaps he is getting advice from a grandmother? When mine learned that I was flying, she made me promise to go slow and stay close to the ground.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 12 Dec 2020, 14:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: I sent that screenshot to Elliot and he just said, "Yeah." lol. I can't imagine how it feel for him to sit back and watch I can ... relieved. Dealing with Peter looks like a real slog.
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