Why don't you adjust your C340's governors, increasing them by 100rpm at a time, and get back to us.

But this question does keep circling back to why not just put the engine on a dynamometer for more thorough testing? As-installed static thrust testing (and cooling testing) is important too, but these are two different things.


I noticed that too, and I wish he'd said something about it. It's gotta be laid out in the performance charts in the POH but even if it's not black and white in there it's all straightforward enough to figure out, something in the ballpark of 10% worse takeoff distance, the true airspeed (and similarly groundspeed, as shown on the video feeds) about 1-2% faster at the point of rotation, and the horsepower about 3% less.

Details matter in a test program.

I suspect his "comparison" was also based on the same airspeed indication that was previously shown to be very optimistic and I didn't see any mention of OAT which can have a significant impact as well.

If he wants to start comparing again, he needs to get the SR20 to take a run now. Not compare his run last week to August 2019. The SR20 was pretty much on par back then with him and his engine hasn’t magically gained hp. He’s probably has around 250 hp max. One time, he says it calculates out at 400 hp. Then around 310 hp. I want it to fly for no other reason except I want him to understand that this thing is going to be a dog in the air.

Onlooker: Say, Pete, have you dynoed that engine?

Peter: No, but I compared it to a video of a 200hp SR20 that weighed 1000# less, at an airport 1000’ higher, with no knowledge of OAT, and got speeds that were within measurement error of that, so I figure I’m at about 300hp.

He did cover the wheel wells, but even there he added weight when he didn’t have to. Why use 200mph tape when you can use sheets of aluminum?

Well, first let me fit this redrive system on... wait a second, that's already been done! A 340 with GTSIO engines, that would be nice. Wait, that's been done, just find a 421 and put it on a diet!

Pete is a BS artist. He can BS his way around the physics to the Raptor faithful because physics is a concept. If he puts the power train on a dyno, he’s going to get a number, not theoretical concept. He wouldn’t be able to bull poop his way around a hard number. It would force reality to be taken into consideration. It’s the old saying, “ don’t confuse me with the facts. I’ve made up my mind”.

It is funny that he is comparing the speed on take off with a SR20... and not a SR22 Turbo
What was the point? Completely different birds.
I guess he is trying to justify some attacks that some people are making, commenting on the lack of power.

Can we compare the SR20 video and the Raptor video at the 5 minute mark into each flight?

A better comparison would be a Malibu in terms of weight/performance/power. 4100 gross, 310-350HP, and a roughly 2000' takeoff roll...

This is suppose to be an email he just sent out to escrow holders.

Guys and Girls,

It's come to my attention that escrow.com is being forced by state rules to return deposits that have been in escrow for over 3 years in order to avoid the funds defaulting to the state. Obviously we don't want that to happen.

These deposits were initially meant to be a gauge of how much interest there was in the Raptor along with a way of holding a place in line. I think it's clear now that there is interest in the aircraft.

So, in order to not create a huge amount of work managing transfer of funds from escrow.com, the plan for if and when you receive a notice from escrow.com is to follow the directions to receive your refund. Then you simply keep those funds and Raptor will still maintain your place in line in our internal database.

If you truly want to cancel then contact escrow.com and cancel and let me know and I will remove you from the list.

I think this is a totally fair way of doing things. We won't need the escrow funds and you still keep your place in line.

As for the production plan, I am working with a group of folks on the West coast and things are looking promising for the plans we are making. I can't reveal any details as yet because nothing is confirmed but if we pull this off you will all be extremely happy. But before any of that can happen I need to get my current changes made and tested and get the first 40 hours flown off the airframe.

Thanks again for your continued support. No need to reply to this email as it's going out to well over a thousand people and I don't want to get inundated with replies.

Cheers,

--
Peter Muller
CEO
Raptor Aircraft LLC.
954-673-5960
www.raptor-aircraft.com

Can we please return to calling Peter, Peter and not Pete. Some of us have the name Pete you know...

That does seem fair, and it backs up what I have believed all along. I don't think Peter is out to swindle anyone or rip anyone off. I think he is a really good guy, and honest. Maybe not honest with himself but he seems to be honest with others. I just think he is in over his head on this project but that does not make him a bad guy or an evil man.

It's good to see he is moving to production. It has been a long time coming.

I don't buy that this is the case at all.

Can we please return to calling Peter, Peter and not Pete. Some of us have the name Pete you know...

Perhaps we should start a pool regarding the week he will have the 40TT completed?