BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Oct 2020, 09:45

Hi all!

It seems a new bug has struck. A friend sent me up with his instructor yesterday in his F28F. Turns out it felt pretty good to fly! This was an experience I never got from flying the R-22.

Anyone here happen to be a wealth of information on Enstrom’s that could give me some pros and cons to these ships?

Mat

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Oct 2020, 10:46

I flew on one a few times with a local sheriff back in the early 91 when I was dropping my W.O.C. packet and understand the excitement of the F28 Enstrom! Dan got wind and took me up a few times. He crashed two of them and walked away each time. It was a great helicopter and seemed to have plenty of power for 2 of us in a piston bird.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Oct 2020, 16:09

Its a sporty chopper. I Really like them and pretty easy on insurance.

One of my customers just got a 480 and is bored with his Shark. If you email me I can put him in touch with you....

Tj

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Oct 2020, 18:39

Username Protected wrote:

Hi all!

It seems a new bug has struck. A friend sent me up with his instructor yesterday in his F28F. Turns out it felt pretty good to fly! This was an experience I never got from flying the R-22.

Anyone here happen to be a wealth of information on Enstrom’s that could give me some pros and cons to these ships?

Mat

I approve this message! Airplanes are somewhat boring compared to helicopters. Come fly my R44 before you make a decision. The 2 blade system fits better in a hangar and the air conditioner is amazing.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 01:56

Only calendar limit component is the lamiflex bearings (approx $5,000 every 5 years) so good for a single owner who does fly that much.

Lots of rotor-inertia, auto-rotations are a non-event.

3-blades - more difficult to hangar and takes a lot of skill (and possibly luck) to track/balance well.

I was VERY close to buying a 280FX before I stumbled upon my '47.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 10:04

Username Protected wrote:

Only calendar limit component is the lamiflex bearings (approx $5,000 every 5 years) so good for a single owner who does fly that much.

Lots of rotor-inertia, auto-rotations are a non-event.

3-blades - more difficult to hangar and takes a lot of skill (and possibly luck) to track/balance well.

I was VERY close to buying a 280FX before I stumbled upon my '47.

47?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 10:24

Username Protected wrote:

Only calendar limit component is the lamiflex bearings (approx $5,000 every 5 years) so good for a single owner who does fly that much.

Lots of rotor-inertia, auto-rotations are a non-event.

3-blades - more difficult to hangar and takes a lot of skill (and possibly luck) to track/balance well.

I was VERY close to buying a 280FX before I stumbled upon my '47.

47?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 10:25

Username Protected wrote:

He crashed two of them and walked away each time. It was a great helicopter...

I love how this is a selling point for a helicopter.

Totally different mindset.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 12:16

Username Protected wrote:

Only calendar limit component is the lamiflex bearings (approx $5,000 every 5 years) so good for a single owner who does fly that much.

Lots of rotor-inertia, auto-rotations are a non-event.

3-blades - more difficult to hangar and takes a lot of skill (and possibly luck) to track/balance well.

I was VERY close to buying a 280FX before I stumbled upon my '47.

47?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 15:12

Username Protected wrote:

age related issue... #MASH?

I did watch MASH actually, now I just never knew the model number! I think that it would be a bit more simplistic then the F28F I was looking for

Mat

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 17:14

I remember a F28 flying in the OSH airshow long ago. I had no idea helo could do that!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Oct 2020, 17:25

Username Protected wrote:

Hi all!

It seems a new bug has struck. A friend sent me up with his instructor yesterday in his F28F. Turns out it felt pretty good to fly! This was an experience I never got from flying the R-22.

Anyone here happen to be a wealth of information on Enstrom’s that could give me some pros and cons to these ships?

Mat

I’ve never heard a single negative thing about them.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 08 Oct 2020, 19:59

A few years ago, I spoke to one of their reps at OSH. This was maybe a year after the chinese buyout. Every couple of years, I look at what it would take to own one, and then sanity prevails.....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 09 Oct 2020, 17:34

Paging Stan Musick ...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 09 Oct 2020, 18:44

Username Protected wrote:

Paging Stan Musick ...

That's right, somewhere in the loooong list of aircraft that Stan has owned is an Enstrom. Mind you, rumor has it that Stan may be considering a Bell-47 now :pilot:

Enstrom Helicopters F28F