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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 14:28 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 17207 Post Likes: +29346 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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Ground cooling is important. Not for full power. But need to be able to sit and taxi in a long queue. Can’t just rely on thermal mass, that might have worked for a WW2 fighter but not in the modern world. That was one of several issues with the LS installation those guys tried in the raven Comanche clone.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 15:13 |
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Joined: 12/28/17 Posts: 804 Post Likes: +385 Company: Bellanca Aircraft Location: Washington, OK
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If you go back to one of his older videos that show where the intercooler and fans are located, you could put 10 fans on it and it will never cool properly
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 15:16 |
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Joined: 11/15/17 Posts: 1197 Post Likes: +619 Company: Cessna (retired)
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Ground cooling can be tricky due to minimal airflow, tailwinds, etc.
On one twin turboprop, we thought we were marginally OK on oil cooling until the test pilot said the proper test condition was in high idle (for ACM operation) in beta at about zzero blade angle.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 03 Oct 2020, 18:03 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 17207 Post Likes: +29346 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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I’d rather see it destroyed in one of these ridiculous high speed taxi runs before it flies. No one should fly that thing. Just end it now in a way that causes minimal personal injuries.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 02:43 |
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Joined: 03/15/16 Posts: 441 Post Likes: +349 Location: NC
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Oh, I think it's going to fly. I think he will make a few laps and come up with some reason he can't do performance runs to show how fast it is. Then, he will make a case for the release of the escrows and we have another 2 years for this thread.  If he takes too long, the re-drive will come apart or the TDI will fail because of his high EGTs. I would like to see him really test it out just to see if the hp numbers some of the guys have run are correct (<250 hp). Since, he has made a case of Raptor vs SR22. It better beat it.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 15:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: Honestly, I’d like to see the airframe scrapped and the engine project continue on and see how far it might go.
Whether the engine succeeds or fails is less relevant than the learnings produced. The engine is also more than enough project to keep a good engineer busy for years.
The airframe is nothing groundbreaking. Just a tutorial on how not to develop an airframe. I wonder how much it would’ve cost him to stick the engine on the back position of a Skymaster to prove it out.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 04 Oct 2020, 15:54 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 13497 Post Likes: +13371 Location: Indiana
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Username Protected wrote: I have no doubt he'll soon fly it, and he'll probably land safely.
What he'll never accomplish, is executing or completing a formal flight test program. Unless he hires someone... You might be right, but he barely lands safely after his repeated ground effect runs.
_________________ Stu F. "A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing."
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Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die Posted: 05 Oct 2020, 14:41 |
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Two kinds of people seem to get along fairly well on homebuilt test flights. Those that are well prepared, with lots of experience, who can analyze the situation, mitigate the risks, and fly a safe well executed test card. And then there are those who are too stupid to be scared.
Sadly Peter falls in the middle. He doesn't exude the confidence of either of the previous groups. The record of first flights completed by builders is poor, and most are well proven designs.
Peter is starting with lots of links in the accident chain connected before he turns the prop. Odds are he will get around the patch intact. But they are not overwhelming.
_________________ Tailwinds, Doug Rozendaal MCW Be Nice, Kind, I don't care, be something, just don't be a jerk ;-)
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