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 Post subject: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2020, 23:07 
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Sold the Baron a year ago and bought 1/2 interest in a 71 182. Have not been flying IFR because it was not equipped. Installed a Garmin 375 which solved the issue. My question is what power settings/speeds do you use for glideslopes. Flaps or no?
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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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I am mostly a sea level pilot who sees a lot of hot, moist air. I do tend to fly approaches with 10 degrees of flaps.

I do not have my cheat sheet handy or I could be precise - I spent a day noting fairly precise performance numbers for power settings on approach and then printed and laminated. I will pull it from the plane and take a pic, may be flying Friday.

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PS you might look at https://pohperformance.com/c182.html

pretty decent iphone/android performance apps


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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If I recall correctly, MP at the bottom of the green arc and 2200 RPM with 10 degrees of flaps gets you a very stable 90 knots in level flight. Pulling back the power about 2” and flattening the prop gets you pretty well on the glide slope. Might not be exactly right, but it’s close.


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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Flying a 180 here, but numbers will be pretty similar. 18 to 20 inches level flight gives me around 100-110 kts which covers the PANS OPS Cat 1 speeds for reversal turns , I also use it as the holding speed, then 10 degrees of flaps intercepting glide path puts it at about 90. I don't use any more flap until visual. Still playing with settings and numbers as I am new to IFR in the 180 but they seem to produce a steady platform with good margins to going missed, circling or landing.


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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David

I am mostly a sea level pilot who sees a lot of hot, moist air. I do tend to fly approaches with 10 degrees of flaps.

I do not have my cheat sheet handy or I could be precise - I spent a day noting fairly precise performance numbers for power settings on approach and then printed and laminated. I will pull it from the plane and take a pic, may be flying Friday.

RAS

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PS you might look at https://pohperformance.com/c182.html

pretty decent iphone/android performance apps



Thanks Richard, would love to see your cheat sheet.


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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If I recall correctly, MP at the bottom of the green arc and 2200 RPM with 10 degrees of flaps gets you a very stable 90 knots in level flight. Pulling back the power about 2” and flattening the prop gets you pretty well on the glide slope. Might not be exactly right, but it’s close.

Sounds about right from what I remember flying our flying clubs C182T. But, I rarely was allowed to niggle an ILS at 90 knots. Last time I was called to 'maintain onesixty on GS', which I had to refuse as being simply unable to do that.

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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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Last time I was called to 'maintain onesixty on GS', which I had to refuse as being simply unable to do that.


Ha! Controller must have confused you with a turboprop. I've done an ILS at 120 knots before, but if it's bumpy things start to feel a little squirrely. It's easy to slow down, though, so I can hold that speed until I'm on short final and still easily land on the touchdown zone markers.


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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Ha! Controller must have confused you with a turboprop.

No, the solution is easy. She was perfectly right on me and does know me quite well, but didn't expect me in a C182 :whistle: .

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Congrats on the 182. I typically use ~19-20" MP to slow down and trim prior to FAP and then just reduce 1" MP for each 100 fpm descent that you want. So, typically ~15" MP for the glideslope. I delay adding flaps until runway environment visual is achieved.

Here is a link to a pretty good read on the flying the Skylane:

https://www.cessnaflyer.org/forum-182/569-the-skylane-pilots-companion.html


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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Depending on the installation, note that these power settings put you in the prime range to get carb ice. The 182RG I fly gets iced up pretty easily and carb heat doesn’t fix it 100%, so I often find myself dropping the gear, flaps, and flattening the prop early. Sometimes I just need to carry extra power a little longer.


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 Post subject: Re: Question for Cessna 182 IFR Pilots
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[quote="Joel Conrad"]Congrats on the 182. I typically use ~19-20" MP to slow down and trim prior to FAP and then just reduce 1" MP for each 100 fpm descent that you want. So, typically ~15" MP for the glideslope. I delay adding flaps until runway environment visual is achieved.


Same here in my 180, as the first notch of flaps give me lift, where I want drag. The 19-20 MP on the localizer is good, and at the FAF the airplane responds beautifully to the 15" for a 500 FPM descent. What you will greatly enjoy is that the 182 is slower, and you can ease into the loc taking your sweet time. Once on the GS, things also happen at a much more leisurely pace.

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What I liked about a 182 was the ability to fit in.
I once flew a ILS between a 737 and a 767. “ keep your speed up!” “Top of the green”
Broke out at 400 feet, easily slowed and landed.
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Sold the Baron a year ago and bought 1/2 interest in a 71 182. Have not been flying IFR because it was not equipped. Installed a Garmin 375 which solved the issue. My question is what power settings/speeds do you use for glideslopes. Flaps or no?
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18" MP level flight no flaps before glidescope intercept (~120 mph)

At or just before intercept reduce power by 5" and you will get a 500 fpm descent to the runway. If you do not see the runway at mins then add 10" and you will now climb out at 500 fpm. All of this is without changing trim and tweaking power a bit for tailwind/headwind.

When the runway is in sight do whatever you like with the prop and flaps.


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I concur with the other C180 pilots. I like 15 inches/2200 RPM for the glide slope or step downs - gives 500 FPM decent around 90-100 knots. If I can get slow enough before starting down I deploy 10-20 degrees of flaps. I like 18-19/2200 RPM for level flight.

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