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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 14 May 2020, 19:04 |
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Joined: 11/22/08 Posts: 3078 Post Likes: +1048 Company: USAF Propulsion Laboratory Location: Dayton, OH
Aircraft: PA24, AEST 680, 421
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In a 421B reduce power to 32” and 1800 rpm, mixture full rich in the climb. May change power settings for cruise, lean to about 1550 TIT. Why? That’s what I was taught.
I have more experience with the Aerostar. I climb full throttle, max rpm and full rich. Others reduce power and lean in the climb, that may save fuel at the expense of time. I don’t think it is a huge difference. I have tried multiple methods.
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 14 May 2020, 19:37 |
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Joined: 11/27/12 Posts: 951 Post Likes: +919 Location: Outer Banks
Aircraft: F33, 421C
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I pull back to 32” and 1900 on Rs (no changes till 1,000’). Then lean to max of 1500 for cooling. I tried different settings too and usually us those settings to 16K and above. I routinely cruise at1550-1600. OK, I’m not buying the gas! Had a buddy who cruised routinely at 1650  He wound up buying a set of cylinders! Let us know if something else works better for you. 
_________________ The “Rattler”
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 15 May 2020, 07:33 |
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Joined: 11/19/14 Posts: 134 Post Likes: +66 Location: St. Louis, MO (KSUS)
Aircraft: 1994 Bonanza A36
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Username Protected wrote: I have run one set of engines out to TBO and I am working on my second set of new engines.
Max power to 1,000 AGL with 45/46 gallons per side. TIT’s on TO should be 1500 or less.
Climb 32.5 and 1900 (top of the green ). FF should then be 31 to 32 GPH in the climb and all Cylinder head temps below 380 this is important. Mine run 285 to 350 in the climb. TIT’s in the climb should be 1400 to 1450.
For cruise my favorite power setting is 31/1700 and TIT’s 1500 to 1550 and 19.5 GPH per side. Standard day 15,000 that’s 61% power so I can run right at peak. This gives me about 207 KTS TAS. Jerry, what is peak for you? I hear this strategy from time to time but what is your peak based on? We’ve never peaked out the 421 or run it LOP. We don’t have the RAM engines so top of green is 32.5. We usually climb at 32.5/1900 but we don’t touch the mixtures. Should we be leaning in climb? Thanks all for the responses!
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 15 May 2020, 08:33 |
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Joined: 01/29/14 Posts: 206 Post Likes: +73
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Username Protected wrote: I have run one set of engines out to TBO and I am working on my second set of new engines.
Max power to 1,000 AGL with 45/46 gallons per side. TIT’s on TO should be 1500 or less.
Climb 32.5 and 1900 (top of the green ). FF should then be 31 to 32 GPH in the climb and all Cylinder head temps below 380 this is important. Mine run 285 to 350 in the climb. TIT’s in the climb should be 1400 to 1450.
For cruise my favorite power setting is 31/1700 and TIT’s 1500 to 1550 and 19.5 GPH per side. Standard day 15,000 that’s 61% power so I can run right at peak. This gives me about 207 KTS TAS. I generally cruise at 32.5 and 1800. At 15k I doubt I would tas 205 at these settings. Gerald is your plane fast, or mine slow? I have hubcaps, but quite a few antennas including a hf wire from nose to tail.
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 15 May 2020, 12:37 |
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Joined: 01/24/10 Posts: 7345 Post Likes: +5008 Location: Concord , CA (KCCR)
Aircraft: 1967 Baron B55
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Username Protected wrote: I have run one set of engines out to TBO and I am working on my second set of new engines.
Max power to 1,000 AGL with 45/46 gallons per side. TIT’s on TO should be 1500 or less.
Climb 32.5 and 1900 (top of the green ). FF should then be 31 to 32 GPH in the climb and all Cylinder head temps below 380 this is important. Mine run 285 to 350 in the climb. TIT’s in the climb should be 1400 to 1450.
For cruise my favorite power setting is 31/1700 and TIT’s 1500 to 1550 and 19.5 GPH per side. Standard day 15,000 that’s 61% power so I can run right at peak. This gives me about 207 KTS TAS. Jerry, what is peak for you? I hear this strategy from time to time but what is your peak based on? We’ve never peaked out the 421 or run it LOP. We don’t have the RAM engines so top of green is 32.5. We usually climb at 32.5/1900 but we don’t touch the mixtures. Should we be leaning in climb? Thanks all for the responses!
If your TIT’s are 1400 to 1450 in climb and your “highest CHT” is below 380 you are ok. If your TIT’s are below 1400 you can lean provided your highest CHT is below 380. All my engines have been Factory New not Ram. I have Gami’s and lean till the first Cylinder peaks. If You are below 61.5% power you can run at peak. GTISO520’s will run lean of peak but the engine has to be set up perfectly and it’s a lot of work for a few gallons per hour of fuel savings and you lose TAS, about 8 to 10 KTS.
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 15 May 2020, 13:05 |
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Joined: 01/24/10 Posts: 7345 Post Likes: +5008 Location: Concord , CA (KCCR)
Aircraft: 1967 Baron B55
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Username Protected wrote: I have run one set of engines out to TBO and I am working on my second set of new engines.
Max power to 1,000 AGL with 45/46 gallons per side. TIT’s on TO should be 1500 or less.
Climb 32.5 and 1900 (top of the green ). FF should then be 31 to 32 GPH in the climb and all Cylinder head temps below 380 this is important. Mine run 285 to 350 in the climb. TIT’s in the climb should be 1400 to 1450.
For cruise my favorite power setting is 31/1700 and TIT’s 1500 to 1550 and 19.5 GPH per side. Standard day 15,000 that’s 61% power so I can run right at peak. This gives me about 207 KTS TAS. I generally cruise at 32.5 and 1800. At 15k I doubt I would tas 205 at these settings. Gerald is your plane fast, or mine slow? I have hubcaps, but quite a few antennas including a hf wire from nose to tail.
I have a lightweight 1980 421C s/n 858. I also have hubcaps. On 421C’s I have seen the TAS at 15,000 vary from 195 to 205 KTS TAS. POH says about 198 KTS TAS depending on DA and GW.
GW and DA will affect speed. Rigging is very important!! Check to see if your flaps go all the way up etc. do you have perfect trim before you turn on the A/P?, ANY damage history?
Is your plane heavy? How many layers of paint and what kind? How heavy is your interior and cabinets? Do you have a flushing toilet? ETC. RSTOL will reduce TAS.
All trailing link planes were made from 1980 to 1982. There are no 1983’s and the so called 84 and 85’s were actually made in 1982 and finished in 84 and 85. They are the heaviest because of the extra corrosion proofing from setting outside in the weeds for a couple of years. The factory empty weight of 421C’s gradually increased year by year from 1976 to 1985. After market changes plus damage history also have an impact on TAS.
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 15 May 2020, 22:08 |
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Joined: 05/04/11 Posts: 501 Post Likes: +116 Location: Covington, GA
Aircraft: 421C, 58
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I don’t have an engine monitor, just the analog tit and Shadin fuel flow. Lean to 1400-1450 in the climb and cht’s (3in1 gauge reading) are always below 350.
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 15 May 2020, 22:27 |
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Joined: 01/24/10 Posts: 7345 Post Likes: +5008 Location: Concord , CA (KCCR)
Aircraft: 1967 Baron B55
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Username Protected wrote: I don’t have an engine monitor, just the analog tit and Shadin fuel flow. Lean to 1400-1450 in the climb and cht’s (3in1 gauge reading) are always below 350. That’s ok, but I would install a good engine monitor like the G4 at your earliest convenience.
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Post subject: Re: 421C Power Settings Posted: 15 May 2020, 22:31 |
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Joined: 10/23/17 Posts: 54 Post Likes: +2 Location: Durant, OK
Aircraft: BE 35-33, C172
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RAM Produces a really good recommended power settings chart. Just toss it in the cockpit. I used it all the time when we had a 421C
_________________ David Bray 580-931-7874 - Cell david.bray@brayaviation.com
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