Rolled along at FL400 and 360kts TAS on 500lbs/hr. Earlier flight we were at Fl370 pushing 370kts on 600lbs/hr. Amazing machines. They also get extremely quiet up high. True no headset plane.

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Where are you looking? I could only find post 2008 models on Controller right now (not the most exhaustive search I admit).[/quote]

Quite a few have gone off the market because of this, but I know of one in Florida that's in need of paint and interior, 750 SMOH great logbooks that's 820K. You have to dig a bit, Controller doesn't have them most of the time. They are out there though.

Here it is:https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/191389433/1991-piaggio-p-180-avanti

Here is another that I know that can probably be bought under 1.1 and it needs only the Garmin glass panel.

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... 180-avanti

Did you mean the original Proline II/FCS65 or the Proline 21?

Did you mean the original Proline II/FCS65 or the Proline 21?

Isn’t one of the “catches” the gear overhaul?

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I think I was thinking of the newer ones that have Proline 21. But Mark posted a link to a 1991 with a Proline 21, presumably retrofit. I’m guessing the Proline II you referenced is the few I saw that have an electronic pilots ADI and HSI?[/quote]

Yes the one in Florida has a P21 Retrofit. All of the Avantis had an electronic ADI and HSI, some more modern looking than others based on the P21 vs P2 equipment.

As to the gear, yes its expensive every 12 years (*you don't have to do it if you are Part 91 BTW) but there is a company now in Dallas that does them for 145K. The one I am buying has 7 years left - but Im not t gonna do it anyway when the calendar limit rolls around. Gear is stouter than Mt Everest!

Mark

Congratulations Mark!

Yep, pretty much the same gear as the F-104 Starfighter. And those suckers touched down at 160+ kts.

Although everything is technically possible, it would be extremely expensive because you'll need to re-certify the Autopilot and the Engine Indication System, too.

Not so straightforward without OEM Support.

PL Fusion development started for Piaggio MPA (Multirole Patrol Aircraft), military derivative, with the intention to deploy the PL Fusion on the civil product too.

Unfortunately, the program was stopped early after first A/C prototype flown in 2016 (and subsequent company issues).

This picture is the only one Piaggio cockpit equipped with PL Fusion:

Piaggio started from barebone King Air PL Fusion and added many features yet missing on other platforms.

One for all, an extensive set of synoptics pages depicting graphically the status of every A/C system, all linked to EICAS... a real novelty for an aircraft of this size in 2016.



Pretty nice, isn't it?

Not sure I know enough to even ask the difference.

I think I was thinking of the newer ones that have Proline 21. But Mark posted a link to a 1991 with a Proline 21, presumably retrofit. I’m guessing the Proline II you referenced is the few I saw that have an electronic pilots ADI and HSI?

Although everything is technically possible, it would be extremely expensive because you'll need to re-certify the Autopilot and the Engine Indication System, too.

Not so straightforward without OEM Support.

PL Fusion development started for Piaggio MPA (Multirole Patrol Aircraft), military derivative, with the intention to deploy the PL Fusion on the civil product too.

Unfortunately, the program was stopped early after first A/C prototype flown in 2016 (and subsequent company issues).

This picture is the only one Piaggio cockpit equipped with PL Fusion:

Piaggio started from barebone King Air PL Fusion and added many features yet missing on other platforms.

One for all, an extensive set of synoptics pages depicting graphically the status of every A/C system, all linked to EICAS... a real novelty for an aircraft of this size in 2016.



Pretty nice, isn't it?

Now THATS a Piaggio interior!

Anthony-

How does the interior noise level in the back compare to other turboprops. I owned a Marquise and the noise level in the back was so so. Comparable to our c340, my wife says. I know the long body MU2 is quieter in the back than the short body which is what you owned, right?

Anyway, would you say Avanti is significantly quieter than any other turboprop you've flown?

Anthony-

How does the interior noise level in the back compare to other turboprops. I owned a Marquise and the noise level in the back was so so. Comparable to our c340, my wife says. I know the long body MU2 is quieter in the back than the short body which is what you owned, right?

Anyway, would you say Avanti is significantly quieter than any other turboprop you've flown?