BeechTalk - BT - The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Jan 2020, 09:14

Username Protected wrote:

Pretty. So is it finished? I want to see it.

Me too!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Jan 2020, 10:12

It’s getting there. Panel is done, did the qual flights yesterday with the avionics folks (and my instructor) and it worked as advertised. Amazing how close everything was with no further tweaking. They are able to shut down a screen in flight, reboot it in config mode, and adjust settings to really dial in AP performance. Flew approaches perfectly.

Couple little squawks to do today but fingers crossed it’s fully wrapped up. Will do a full pirep of the experience once I get it back to home base.

While it took longer than plan, intercontinental jet’s team did a very nice job on everything.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Jan 2020, 11:34

Username Protected wrote:

While it took longer than plan, intercontinental jet’s team did a very nice job on everything.

I wondered if you were here in Tulsa.......saw a P180 burning holes around the patch yesterday.....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Jan 2020, 11:44

Real quick if I may, is this certified single pilot? Thanks,,,

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Jan 2020, 11:59

Username Protected wrote:

Real quick if I may, is this certified single pilot? Thanks,,,

Yes

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Jan 2020, 12:53

Username Protected wrote:

I wondered if you were here in Tulsa.......saw a P180 burning holes around the patch yesterday.....

That was us! Still here enjoying the beautiful Tulsa winter.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Jan 2020, 23:47

Got it back. Took longer than I thought it would but quality of work is very good and the plane works as advertised.

Very nice traveling plane. Quiet and smooth.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2020, 01:34

Username Protected wrote:

Got it back. Took longer than I thought it would but quality of work is very good and the plane works as advertised.

Very nice traveling plane. Quiet and smooth.

That’s honestly pretty impressive.
Remind me the SHP vs your Solitaire?
Obviously it’s running more fuel so more power and more Wang is a big help.

Can it take off no flaps or are they must-have like MuToo?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2020, 01:46

Username Protected wrote:

Got it back. Took longer than I thought it would but quality of work is very good and the plane works as advertised.

Very nice traveling plane. Quiet and smooth.

Looks great Anthony!

Very efficient, at least in cruise:
580 lbs/hr / 377 ktas = 1.54 lbs/nm

Comparing to the Solitaire:
480 lbs/hr / 290 ktas = 1.66 lbs/nm

Pretty sweet!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2020, 07:03

You need flaps to takeoff but you put them up almost immediately. On one, it dogs a bit of flaps are out. Cleaned up it climbs away quite nicely.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2020, 11:17

Username Protected wrote:

Got it back. Took longer than I thought it would but quality of work is very good and the plane works as advertised.

Very nice traveling plane. Quiet and smooth.

Passing Citations, right and left...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2020, 20:31

P180's not known for amazing climb rate. But here's the thing, there's a direct correlation between that and high speed. Thin, high laminar flow wings perform less well in T/O distance and good climb rate, but they offer less drag and high speed. You pick your battles.

I think I did the math in another thread. For economy, nothing in the twin turbine world comes near a P180. Heck, half of the turbine singles can't even beat it in numbers.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jan 2020, 21:02

Climb rates are better than any other tp I have been in. Holds 3k+ without trouble below 20k.

Today at fl40. Doing 350kts in about 480lbs/hr. Could have brought it back further. Solitaire would have been burning that going 300kts at fl280.