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 Post subject: Re: Otto Aviation Celera 500L Flew This Week
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In the case of the SMA the turbo is turning in the ballpark of 16,000 RPM...

I highly doubt that. I haven't seen any of their mapping but generally speaking something that size should be spinning maybe ~7X that fast


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 Post subject: Re: Otto Aviation Celera 500L Flew This Week
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In the case of the SMA the turbo is turning in the ballpark of 16,000 RPM...

I highly doubt that. I haven't seen any of their mapping but generally speaking something that size should be spinning maybe ~7X that fast


You are correct sir, 146,000 RPM is the published limit for the gen 1 engine. So ~9x what I said.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... iyZdDGkmFz

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Aviation Celera 500L Flew This Week
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Grob G850 set the altitude record for pistons at 60000ft, so it's not impossible to imagine a scenario where a diesel engine could reach the same altitudes.

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Aviation Celera 500L Flew This Week
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Grob G850 set the altitude record for pistons at 60000ft, so it's not impossible to imagine a scenario where a diesel engine could reach the same altitudes.


I believe the Grob used a piston turbine hybrid engine. The props were also huge making a high wing configuration all but necessary.

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Grob G850 set the altitude record for pistons at 60000ft, so it's not impossible to imagine a scenario where a diesel engine could reach the same altitudes.


No but it sure makes regular ops at FL650 a stretch.


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 Post subject: Re: Otto Aviation Celera 500L Flew This Week
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I liked the earlier comment about autonomous freight ops, point to point. Seems like a good mission for this type of airplane.

Take the human out of the equation, and go as high as you want. Being slower than an airliner and taking a hour to climb are less of a problem.

Maybe a human pilot in a pressure suit for proof of concept, then take the human out when the tech and regulators are ready.


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 Post subject: Re: Otto Aviation Celera 500L Flew This Week
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I was at KVCV last night.
I asked the ramp guys if they see the OTTO flying much.
They said yes it's been flying regularly.


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Grob G850 set the altitude record for pistons at 60000ft, so it's not impossible to imagine a scenario where a diesel engine could reach the same altitudes.


No but it sure makes regular ops at FL650 a stretch.


Which makes Concorde an even more incredible bird/ops.
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I was at KVCV last night.
I asked the ramp guys if they see the OTTO flying much.
They said yes it's been flying regularly.



Surprising that there's no video of it flying yet...


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I don't know how much of the "paper airplane" is actually making it into hardware, but they have at least 7 US patents on various concepts..... Generally described in the specification, here:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US953 ... o+Aviation

Serial numbers for the group:

Child Continuity Data
14/154,321 filed on 01-14-2014 which is Patented claims the benefit of 61/753,215
14/154,353 filed on 01-14-2014 which is Patented claims the benefit of 61/753,215
14/154,415 filed on 01-14-2014 which is Patented claims the benefit of 61/753,215
14/154,469 filed on 01-14-2014 which is Patented claims the benefit of 61/753,215
14/154,661 filed on 01-14-2014 which is Patented claims the benefit of 61/753,215
14/154,702 filed on 01-14-2014 which is Patented claims the benefit of 61/753,215
14/154,756 filed on 01-14-2014 which is Patented claims the benefit of 61/753,215

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Still waiting to see a video of this thing in flight.

Does one exist?

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New link including flight videos and performance data.

The potential for this air frame is amazing.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... eaks-cover

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Paging the raptor guy on this thread... we’ve found your new engine. And engineers. And design. And quality assurance folks. And well.... aircraft


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A V-12 engine...

It would appear to have a rather long driveshaft.


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Those sub $400 DOCs would be awesome. And.... piston single engine ramp fees. Sign me up!

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