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 Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die
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The moon is about 240,000 miles from earth. The nearest star is 24,984,092,897,478 miles from earth.

So if you miss the moon, you won't "land among the stars", you'll die in space.[/quote]

So sorry to be the pedantic one, but are you sure about that distance to the nearest star?
I'm happy to admit I may not be familiar the units you are using there, but to me, the nearest star is only 150 million kilometers away, so that's about 93 million miles...[/quote]

Ouch!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNDHIee-6Bs

Was not going to say anything... so thanks.

Now consider who upvoted that post and integrate against their other comments and ask yourself might be they also be capable of missing the (now obvious) mark in other places?


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 Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die
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The moon is about 240,000 miles from earth. The nearest star is 24,984,092,897,478 miles from earth.

So if you miss the moon, you won't "land among the stars", you'll die in space.


So sorry to be the pedantic one, but are you sure about that distance to the nearest star?
I'm happy to admit I may not be familiar the units you are using there, but to me, the nearest star is only 150 million kilometers away, so that's about 93 million miles...


This seems like one of those logic puzzles that my dad used to work on.

Agreed that the Sun is the nearest star and about 93M miles as Don noted "star". Looking at the previous discussion, to be amongst the nearest "stars" is about 24.984T miles. Personally I think the last 898,478 was made up because it is a nice pattern on the calculator. However, that number might be right 2 times a year!

Then again, are we not amongst the stars already, albeit protected by a pretty nice magnetosphere and atmosphere?

Here is a better question - Who sat through all of Ad Astra? ...twice!? ...with their kid(s)! Sitting through it a third time and the Raptor hitting the guesstimated numbers is about the same probability - Somewhere between zero and none!

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 Post subject: Re: Raptor Aircraft 5 Seat Pressurized 3,600 NM Range Die
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Username Protected wrote:

The moon is about 240,000 miles from earth. The nearest star is 24,984,092,897,478 miles from earth.

So if you miss the moon, you won't "land among the stars", you'll die in space.


So sorry to be the pedantic one, but are you sure about that distance to the nearest star?
I'm happy to admit I may not be familiar with the units you are using there, but to me, the nearest star is only 150 million kilometers away, so that's about 93 million miles...


Good point, but I was not counting our sun. Because IMO, if you want to be "among the stars", I think you need to be away from our own.

But whatever stirs your grits.

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This seems like one of those logic puzzles that my dad used to work on.

Agreed that the Sun is the nearest star and about 93M miles as Don noted "star". Looking at the previous discussion, to be amongst the nearest "stars" is about 24.984T miles. Personally I think the last 898,478 was made up because it is a nice pattern on the calculator. However, that number might be right 2 times a year!

Then again, are we not amongst the stars already, albeit protected by a pretty nice magnetosphere and atmosphere?

Here is a better question - Who sat through all of Ad Astra? ...twice!? ...with their kid(s)! Sitting through it a third time and the Raptor hitting the guesstimated numbers is about the same probability - Somewhere between zero and none!


All I did was go here and convert km to miles.
https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/features/ ... _info.html

It's like asking someone sitting in your living room "how far to the nearest house?" 99.9% will tell you how far to their nearest neighbors house. The other .1% will say "no distance because I'm sitting in it." and think they're smart.


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I wouldn't make it through two semesters of freshman engineering classes, but common sense tells me John Q Public has about a 0.0001% chance of building an airplane that far, far surpasses what trained, experienced engineers at NASA, Cessna, Beech, Piper, Cirrus, Mooney etc, not to mention people like Rutan have been able to design and build.

Kipchoge may have broken the two hour barrier, but he only beat the old record by two minutes, and that with "help" not available for an official record time. Put another way, he was 1.67% faster, (with help) not 16% faster.


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Is there a possibility, for liability reasons, that Audi will put the poo poo on using their engine once this project gets off the ground?


I don’t see how they could. It’s a junkyard engine.


Mr. Davis, please explain your reasoning, why you think or have evidence of this engine being JUNK? :shrug:

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Mr. Davis, please explain your reasoning, why you think or have evidence of this engine being JUNK? :shrug:



I believe he meant you could buy one from a junkyard donor car.


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aaahh....thanks for clarifying! :peace:


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I don’t see how they could. It’s a junkyard engine.


Mr. Davis, please explain your reasoning, why you think or have evidence of this engine being JUNK? :shrug:


I believe he said in a video that he bought the engine second hand from a wrecked car. I didn’t say it was junk. I said it was a junkyard engine as in one that came out of a wrecked car.

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I Fly Raptor Fly!!!


This “raptor” may get more flight time.

LOL that was a friend of mine! His passenger had a broke back from the landing. Happened at Rednecks with Paychecks about 6 years ago or so.
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A 1000 pounds of thrust at the prop now? :-)

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Seems like he got the engine figured out at least for short bursts.

Automotive engines are made for stop and go. Not continuous power like a aircraft or boat. It will be interesting to see how it holds up with continued load.

If I were him I would set up the tune for conservative power and lean more towards the side of reliability. It should fly with 75% power. No need to set it on kill for the first test flights.

I think he is getting close. Like others I fear about what else is hiding it’s ugly head to only come out during flight. How many other mistakes like the cam sensor bolt are on the aircraft? I would not want to be the first to fly that plane. Haha. If I had to I would pick a dry lake bed where there are lots of ways out.

I wish him luck. He is a unique and strong individual.

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