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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon  Posted: 11 Oct 2019, 09:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: That’s true. It’s also true that the flap handle gets in the way, especially at 10*. I suppose it’s also part of the mystique: brap, brap, brap, brap. . . flaps. . .brapbrapbrapbrap.... I flew 200 hours in a C185 hauling jumpers. Never seemed to me that the flap handle and trim wheel interfered with each other. I always thought they were perfectly located.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 11 Oct 2019, 09:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: That’s true. It’s also true that the flap handle gets in the way, especially at 10*. I suppose it’s also part of the mystique: brap, brap, brap, brap. . . flaps. . .brapbrapbrapbrap.... I flew 200 hours in a C185 hauling jumpers. Never seemed to me that the flap handle and trim wheel interfered with each other. I always thought they were perfectly located.
You must have a crook in your arm! 
Minor issue though.
Jg 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 11 Oct 2019, 12:25 |
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If your trim wheel fails add some flaps and reduce power. It happened to me.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 11 Oct 2019, 13:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: If your trim wheel fails add some flaps and reduce power. It happened to me. Had it happen in my 310 and a Citation. Always always slow that sucker down to reduce the forces that are otherwise created.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 23:24 |
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Mark, just curious re night landings. I have plenty of time at night, but none in the 180, or any tail dragger. Do you wheel it on to maintain better sight of the runway lights?
Cheers Rich
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 25 Oct 2019, 00:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mark, just curious re night landings. I have plenty of time at night, but none in the 180, or any tail dragger. Do you wheel it on to maintain better sight of the runway lights?
Cheers Rich Funny you ask. I turned final and thought hmmm...this is a first. Do I wheel it or three point it? Seriously. I wheeled it. Might have been the best landing ever. That said, every landing in a Wagon is your first landing. All my other night work and been on amphibs
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 25 Oct 2019, 00:55 |
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The right call I think. Maybe some others will give their opinions. My home runway is narrow, no vasi/papi and the bare minimum of lighting. I figure wheeling it will give me the best chance of keeping it straight.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 25 Oct 2019, 01:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: The right call I think. Maybe some others will give their opinions. My home runway is narrow, no vasi/papi and the bare minimum of lighting. I figure wheeling it will give me the best chance of keeping it straight. I looked down 17L. 10,000 ft. Straddled the center line. Didn’t vary all...made a smooth turn off onto the taxiway. Flew it all the way to the chalks. As always
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 25 Oct 2019, 22:03 |
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Mark, If your best Skywagon landing was your first night landing, I think that, from now on, I'm just going to shut my eyes on short final. Jg
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 25 Oct 2019, 23:24 |
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Video of trip over Rockies.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/64YPw_A4xWg[/youtube]
The thumbnail feature hasn’t worked for me in weeks. Any thoughts?
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 26 Oct 2019, 11:38 |
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Made that trip many times in the Skywagon (KBJC to KDVT, almost identical). Over Wolf Creek Pass, then follow the power line to Phoenix  Beautiful country.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 26 Oct 2019, 11:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: Video of trip over Rockies.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/64YPw_A4xWg[/youtube]
The thumbnail feature hasn’t worked for me in weeks. Any thoughts? You had a space before the htt....
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Username Protected wrote: Video of trip over Rockies.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/64YPw_A4xWg[/youtube]
The thumbnail feature hasn’t worked for me in weeks. Any thoughts? You had a space before the htt....
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